Re: VPN Timeouts

  • From: "Peter" <Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:22:05 -0700

An update to this issue.


It was discovered that the VPN being connected to is a Watchguard VPN. The
disconnect is happening after 18 minutes and it is a known problem with
Watchguard when a connection is being made through Microsoft ICS and ISA
Server.  See a copy of the log below and the comment from Watchguard.

If anyone has seen this issue and has heard of a solution, please let me
know. The issue is logged with Watchguard and I will forward their
solution when and if it arrives.

E-mail from Watchguard first line support:

Issue: Under certain conditions, Windows 2000 PPTP clients will become
disconnected after 18 minutes of connect time, regardless of network
activity. Date Reported: 6/10/2001
Description: When negotiating PPTP tunnels with a Windows 2000 client,
sometimes the 2000 client fails to send a TCP ACK to the Firebox in
response to a PPTP "set-link-info" packet. The Firebox attempts to send
this packet every minute with no response from the 2000 client. This is a
TCP mis-timing issue that seems to happen when ICS (Internet Connection
Sharing) is enabled on the Windows 2000 system.
Workaround: Internal testing has revealed that disabling ICS with Windows
2000 stops this timing issue from occurring.
To disable ICS:
        From the desktop, right-click My Network Places, select Properties. 
        Right-click Local Area Connection, select Properties. 
        Note: If you have more than one Local Area Connection, repeat this
procedure for each entry to make sure ICS is completely disabled.
        Double-click TCP/IP. 
        Select the Sharing tab. 
        Disable Internet Connection Sharing. 
        Click OK. 
        Click OK. 
Current Status: 3rd party issue.
Software Version: All Firebox versions.

Copy of the log file and we can see the heartbeat disconnect:

16:10:35        pptpd[1869] Terminating on signal 2.    
16:10:35        pptpd[1869] Connection terminated.      
16:10:35        pptpd[1869] Persist flag not set, so we are exiting.
16:10:35        kernel pptp5: pptp_sock_close   
16:10:35        pptpd[1869] Drop Host 14 202.27.160.45 pptp_users amr succeeded
16:10:35        pptpd[1869] User amr at 202.27.160.45 logged out
16:10:35        pptpd[1869] Exit.       
16:10:40        pptpd[2352] Watchguard pptpd 2.2.0 started
16:10:40        pptpd[2352] Using interface pptp5       
16:10:40        kernel pptp5: daemon attached.  
16:10:40        pptpd[2352] Connect: pptp5 [5] <-->203.202.185.62
16:10:41        tunneld[113] process_stop_request: invalid state for
203.202.185.62
16:10:41        tunneld[113] process_rfds: unable to process packet from
203.202.185.62
16:10:41        pptpd[2352] Terminating on signal 2.    
16:10:41        pptpd[2352] Connection terminated.      
16:10:41        pptpd[2352] Persist flag not set, so we are exiting.
16:10:41        kernel pptp5: pptp_sock_close   
16:10:41        pptpd[2352] Exit.       
16:12:08        pptpd[1929] Terminating on signal 2.    
16:12:09        pptpd[1929] Connection terminated.      
16:12:09        pptpd[1929] Persist flag not set, so we are exiting.
16:12:09        kernel pptp2: pptp_sock_close   
16:12:09        pptpd[1929] Drop Host 14 202.27.160.42 pptp_users pas succeeded
16:12:09        pptpd[1929] User pas at 202.27.160.42 logged out
16:12:09        pptpd[1929] Exit.       
16:19:38        pptpd[2583] Watchguard pptpd 2.2.0 started
16:19:38        pptpd[2583] Using interface pptp2       
16:19:38        kernel pptp2: daemon attached.  
16:19:38        pptpd[2583] Connect: pptp2 [2] <-->203.202.185.62
16:19:38        kernel GRE: out of order: as:0 seq:0    from:0x3eb9cacb
16:19:41        pptpd[2583] User jjc at 202.27.160.42 logged in
16:19:41        pptpd[2583] Add Host 14 202.27.160.42 pptp_users jjc succeeded
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] Compression enabled 
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] Using PPTP encryption RC4 40-bit.
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] Not using any PPTP software compression.
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] Using stateless mode.       
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] Allowing unsafe packet transfer mode for lossy 
links.
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] local  IP address 202.27.160.5
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] remote IP address 202.27    .160.42
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] found interface eth0 for proxy arp
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] found interface eth1 for proxy arp
16:19:42        pptpd[2583] found interface eth2 forproxy arp


> You don't get alerts for no reason, though the causes aren't always clear.
> Take a look in the registry for this value:
> 
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Fpc\Arrays\{GUID}\Servers\{GUID}]
> "msFPCIntraArrayAddress"="<someIPaddress>"
> ..replace {GUID} with the huge number you find there..
> 
> If it doesn't match your internal IP, change it so that it does.
> 
> Jim Harrison
> MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/
> Read the books!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter" <Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 13:01
> Subject: [isalist] Re: VPN Timeouts
> 
> 
> Still no solution.  If anyone has seen this issue, please respond with
> comments!!
> 
> We have an ISA Server running very well but every 16 or so minutes the
> clients (on the internal side of the ISA server) are disconnected from
> their external VPN's.
> 
> It is 16 or so minutes after VPN connection not all at the same time. I
> have tried to disable the QOS on the external side. I have very few errors
> in the logs. The errors I have are;
> 
> 1. On boot I get a "<I>IntraArrayAddress</I> defined on this server is not
> in
> the Local Address Table". However we only have one ISA server running in
> intgrated mode.
> 
> 2. I get a "Cannot read configuration" from time to time in the alert
> section.
> 
> The server has publishing rules (eg OWA, some servers etc) and they all
> work fine.
> 
> From the ISA Server A VPN session does not drop.
> 
> 
> If anyone has an idea what is causing this issue, please comment.
> 
> Note. I configured the VPN's with the wizards. I have tried to do
> everything by the rules.
> 
> Thanks & HELP!!
> 
> > We have an ISA Server running very well but every 16 or so minutes the
> > clients (on the internal side of the ISA server) are disconnected from
> > their external VPN's.
> >
> > It is 16 or so minutes after VPN connection not all at the same time. I
> > have tried to disable the QOS on the external side. I have very few errors
> > in the logs. The errors I have are;
> >
> > 1.  On boot I get a "<I>IntraArrayAddress</I> defined on this server is
> not in
> > the Local Address Table". However we only have one ISA server running in
> > intgrated mode.
> >
> > 2. I get a "Cannot read configuration" from time to time in the alert
> > section.
> >
> > The server has publishing rules (eg OWA, some servers etc) and they all
> > work fine.
> >
> > From the ISA Server A VPN session does not drop.
> >
> > I purchased the book but the lists seem to be riddled with PGP near the
> > answer to issues.
> >
> > If anyone has an idea what is causing this issue, please comment.
> >
> > Note.  I configured the VPN's with the wizards. I have tried to do
> > everything by the rules.
> >
> > Thanks..
> >
> > > Was there ever a response to this issue?
> > >
> > > Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > > RE: [isalist] Re: VPN Timeoutsdiito here:
> > > >
> > > > My internal win98 snat clients connecting to external VPN server times
> =
> > > > out after approx 20mins
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > >   From: Jeff_Bevans@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > >   To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]=20
> > > >   Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:22 AM
> > > >   Subject: [isalist] Re: VPN Timeouts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   I have the problem as well, but for clients connecting into the vpn
> =
> > > > server.  If I click on redial it authenticates right away.
> > > >
> > > >   Jeff Bevans=20
> > > >
> > > >   -----Original Message-----=20
> > > >   From: Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > > >   Sent: November 9, 2001 10:17 AM=20
> > > >   To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]=20
> > > >   Subject: [isalist] Re: VPN Timeouts=20
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >   I noticed!  I'm just having similar problems with one site, and I
> was=20
> > > >   waiting for Jim to tell us how to fix it!!!=20
> > > >
> > > >   At 12:13 PM 11/9/2001 -0600, you wrote:=20
> > > >   >http://www.ISAserver.org=20
> > > >   >=20
> > > >   >I asked this question yesterday, but no one noticed.=20
> > > >   >=20
> > > >   >On two separate ISA servers I am getting VPN Timeouts.  It
> connects, =
> > > > sits=20
> > > >   >at verifying username & password, then times out saying no
> response.=20
> > > >   >=20
> > > >   >What might I have missed ?=20
> > > >   >=20
> > > >   >TIA=20
> > > >   >=20
> > > >   >Paul Nuernberger=20
> > > >   >Manager=20
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