[isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

  • From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:37:01 -0400

It's SBS. IIS is running on the ISA server.

 

Amy

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:14 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

 

I think you guys are making this WAY harder than it should be.

 

1. Enable autodiscovery publishing on the ISA firewall

2. Make sure IIS is NOT running on the ISA firewa

3. Configure the wpad alias in the domain that the machines belong to

4. Configure the firewall clients for wpad autodiscovery (the default)

5. Configure Web browsers to use autodiscovery (the default)

 

That's it. Make sure the ISA firewall is a domain member, the client
machines are domain members, and that the users are logged in as domain
members.

 

That's it. All. no mo.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 5:47 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

        I think I've skimmed that document before, but I was able to
download wpad.dat manually by going to the ISA url, so i assumed
everything was working, but today when I try http://wpad/wpdat.dat it's
no worky, so I dunno what happened.

         

        For my own knowledge / reference, how would I achieve the
solution to my original problem (User shows as IP instead of Username)
without touching the WPAD stuff?

         

         

        Jonathon J. Howey

        MENSE Inc.

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        F 780.409.5621

        D 780.409.5628

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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
        Sent: April 17, 2006 4:12 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

        Installing WPAD will do it. http://isatools.org/sbs_wpad_2.zip
Also do a search on my blog for silently installing the firewall client.
I know I did an entry on that a while back. Might want to read about
WPAD while you're there too.

         

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        Amy

         

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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:02 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

         

        I'm not seeing it in the list Amy.

         

        Anyways to backup, let's pretend I didn't want to go around to
each station and change each FWC to autodiscover; what do I need to do
for the other solution (with the proxy)?

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
        Sent: April 17, 2006 3:44 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

        To have your workstations use WPAD you'll have to first install
it. Look to isatools.org for the SBS WPAD implementation.

         

        Amy

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 5:15 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

         

        So to simplify what I need to do, i think either need to enable
the Web Proxy for my Network Properties by hitting that check box that's
currently unchecked [if i want no WPAD], or in that same window, enable
Auto Discovery in it's tab [if i want WPAD]?

         

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
        Sent: April 17, 2006 3:02 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

        Hi Jonathan,

         

        You need the Web proxy and/or Firewall client configuration to
get user names. If you're using WPAD, you must enable autodiscovery
information publishing, or host that information on another Web server.

         

        HTH,

        Tom

         

        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
        Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
        MVP -- ISA Firewalls

         

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
                Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 3:23 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                Trying to track down what's causing IP's to be published
in report instead of Username

                 

                 

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                Sent: April 17, 2006 1:53 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                Why is autodiscovery information publishing unchecked?

                 

                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
                MVP -- ISA Firewalls

                 

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
                        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:34 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                        OK found it for the Internal Network.

                         

                        *On the Auto Discovery tab, "Publish automatic
discovery information" was unchecked

                        *On Firewall Client tab, "Enable FWC support" is
checked, my Server name is typed in, then "Automatically detect
settings" and "Use automatic config. script" (default URL) is checked.
"Use a Web proxy server" is NOT.  (these would all be default as I do
not remember changing any of this).

                         

                        Now knowing this, should I check 'Use a web
proxy server', or uncheck the auto. detect settings?

                         

                        Furthermore, I've never changed ISA Console >
General > Define Firewall Client Setting, so everything there should
still be the same.

                         

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
                        Sent: April 17, 2006 1:12 PM
                        To: ISA Mailing List
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                        From within the ISA console, in the  the
properties of your protected network, on the firewall client tab. 

                         

                        That should be selected if you want to
autocinfigure the FWC.

                         

                        S

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
                        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 3:55 PM
                        To: ISA Mailing List
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                         

                        Could you further explain?  I remember during
ISA 2004 setup whether I'm connecting a console to an existing ISA
server, or make a new ISA server, but I doubt that's it.

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
                        Sent: April 17, 2006 12:17 PM
                        To: ISA Mailing List
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                        Have you disabled auto detect in the ISA
console, because that's where the instruction comes from.

                         

                        S

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
                        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:52 PM
                        To: ISA Mailing List
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                         

                        Yes, but like I said, I believe most of my FWC
installs have a hard-coded server address typed in, so it shouldn't be
used the WPAD entry?

                         

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
                        Sent: April 17, 2006 11:44 AM
                        To: ISA Mailing List
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                        Take it out the dhcp scope, (it don't work as it
should), and just use a DNS A record for wpad.

                         

                        S

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
                        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 12:46 PM
                        To: ISA Mailing List
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                         

                        Each client does have FWC installed (hard-coded
to the ISA WINS name (instead of DNS i've now realized); but i also have
configured the WPAD o252 in my domain.local DHCP scope .. ), and then
after I installed it, I proceeded to the 'Web Browser' tab and hit
'Configure Now', which changed the old ISASERVER:8080 config in the
client's Internet Options to the configuration script.

                         

                        After reading the 'Client Overview' in the Help
section, I'm pretty sure that I just have FWC users which would also be
Web Proxy users, so therefore the report should be working... yes?

                         

                         

                        Jonathon J. Howey

                        MENSE Inc.

                        P 780.409.5620

                        F 780.409.5621

                        D 780.409.5628

                        C 780.965.8363

                        Jonathon@xxxxxxxx

                         

                        Defining the Future of Transportation

                        www.MENSE.ca <http://www.mense.ca/> 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
                        Sent: April 17, 2006 9:33 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Top Users" report

                        Read up on client types. The help file has
excellent information on this. If it's authentication you'd like and
tracking by username rather than IP address, then you'll need the
firewall client.

                         

                        As far as what the #7 entry represents you'll
have to consult your logs to see what t Client Typesdd

                        \ hat user was doing. 

                         

                        Amy

                         

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathon J. Howey
                        Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:13 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] "Top Users" report

                         

                        Anyone have any idea on why the IP of the
machine is showing up instead of the user?  Has it anything to do with
using a config. script in IE/Mozilla instead of proxy and port?  Reason
I ask is, the report is misleading if you use DHCP, as it looks like the
User (IP) is being stored as the PK, and hence if that IP get's
re-assigned to a diff. user (as it has in my case), it doesn't reset the
totals.

                         

                        As well, anyone have any ideas of where I can
find out where the IP in #7 is coming from?  Is it possible that it's a
spammer server and the ISA report is considering traffic on port 25 as
well?  (this is an SBS box).

                         

                         

No

User

Requests

% of Total Requests

Bytes In

% of Total Bytes In

Bytes Out

% of Total Bytes Out

Total Bytes

% of Total Bytes

1

192.168.100.119

20096

2.90 %

22.69 GB

30.60 %

2.30 GB

4.80 %

24.99 GB

20.50 %

2

192.168.100.117

3626

0.50 %

19.37 GB

26.10 %

1.33 GB

2.80 %

20.70 GB

17.00 %

3

192.168.100.126

15047

2.20 %

3.29 GB

4.40 %

10.74 GB

22.40 %

14.03 GB

11.50 %

4

192.168.100.127

13424

2.00 %

1.88 GB

2.50 %

8.44 GB

17.60 %

10.32 GB

8.50 %

5

192.168.100.139

17883

2.60 %

5.90 GB

8.00 %

3.80 GB

7.90 %

9.70 GB

7.90 %

6

192.168.100.100

13107

1.90 %

1.29 GB

1.70 %

3.16 GB

6.60 %

4.45 GB

3.60 %

7

198.53.112.177

76

0.00 %

3.38 GB

4.60 %

219.57 MB

0.40 %

3.60 GB

2.90 %

8

192.168.100.104

746

0.10 %

611.11 MB

0.80 %

2.73 GB

5.70 %

3.33 GB

2.70 %

9

192.168.100.122

5902

0.90 %

1.38 GB

1.90 %

1.27 GB

2.70 %

2.66 GB

2.20 %

10

192.168.100.85

110655

16.10 %

725.06 MB

1.00 %

1.94 GB

4.00 %

2.65 GB

2.20 %

11

192.168.100.124

14410

2.10 %

1.15 GB

1.60 %

1.11 GB

2.30 %

2.26 GB

1.90 %

12

192.168.100.134

12922

1.90 %

1.28 GB

1.70 %

920.23 MB

1.90 %

2.18 GB

1.80 %

13

192.168.100.114

20273

3.10 %

1.60 GB

2.20 %

548.31 MB

1.10 %

2.13 GB

1.80 %

14

192.168.100.132

14908

2.30 %

216.83 MB

0.30 %

1.83 GB

3.80 %

2.04 GB

1.70 %

15

192.168.100.113

14029

2.20 %

1.09 GB

1.50 %

451.77 MB

0.90 %

1.53 GB

1.30 %

 

All Others

374959

59.30 %

6.29 GB

11.10 %

7.06 GB

15.10 %

13.36 GB

12.60 %

 

Total

652063

100.00 %

72.12 GB

100.00 %

47.81 GB

100.00 %

119.93 GB

100.00 %

                         

                        Thanks.

                         

                        Jonathon J. Howey

                        MENSE Inc.

                        P 780.409.5620

                        F 780.409.5621

                        D 780.409.5628

                        C 780.965.8363

                        Jonathon@xxxxxxxx

                         

                        Defining the Future of Transportation

                        www.MENSE.ca <http://www.mense.ca/> 

                         

                         

                         

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