[isalist] Re: Think Outside the GUI challenge #2

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:48:49 -0800

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Nope - as stated; W2K3 SP1 on all machines.  No dedicated intra-array
network in either case.

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On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Think Outside the GUI challenge #2

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Machines aren't using a dedicated intraarray NIC and they're not updated
to Windows Server 2003 SP1 and NLB is enabled?

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:17 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: Think Outside the GUI challenge #2
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> Interesting thought, but no...
> 
> Here's a hint for #1 - wpad data is built from the ISA server's 
> understanding of the current array status.
> Here's a hint for #2 - CARP traffic consists of authenticated traffic 
> between array members
> 
> ..oh, darn; I may have given it away.
> :-p
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:04 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: Think Outside the GUI challenge #2
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> Arrays aren't a feature that I've had a need for yet so this is 
> somewhat a stab in the dark. But if it were me troubleshooting why 
> array servers didn't populate WSPAD then I'd be looking at 
> communications on the domain like DNS and Active Directory lookup 
> problems.
> 
> Amy Babinchak
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:52 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: Think Outside the GUI challenge #2
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> Thought this one would make you "prairie-dog", David...  :-p
> 
> As you might have noticed, I didn't call out any one particular 
> plug-in.
> There are many whose "required ISA settings" will cause those 
> problems.
> 
> In fact, GFI wasn't one of the "offenders".
> 
> Anyone willing to take a guess at the problem / solutions?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of David Farinic
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:38 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: Think Outside the GUI challenge #2
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> Actually WSPAD and some other auto-replies produced by ISA
> 2000/2004 are
> not consistent to its API specification therefore each 3rd party dev 
> has to go through try and fail cycle to understand possible problems 
> with ISA autoresponses including ms_proxy_intra_array_auth_query.
> 
> DavidF
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
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> Subject: [isalist] Think Outside the GUI challenge #2
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> Just last week, I encountered an interesting scenario; two separate 
> customers using two completely different ISA plug-ins hit exactly the 
> same problem, although it manifested differently for each.
> 
> Cust #1
> Scenario: ISA 2004 EE, 4 array members W2K3 SP1, separate CSS, all 
> domain-joined.
> Problem: When requested, each array member produced a wpad script that

> only included itself.  In no case did the wpad script list any of the 
> other three array members.
> 
> Cust #2
> Scenario: ISA 2004 EE, LARGE multiple-array deployment, separate, 
> multiple CSS, W2K3 SP1, all domain-joined.
> Problem: CARP requests continuously failed.
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> In both cases, the same relative behavior for each plug-in caused the 
> problem - what was it?
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