TMG will release by the end of this year, which will also be about 90 days before it goes "GA" (Generally Available). ISA 2006 SA will get them an upgrade to TMG. ISA 2004 SA will not. TMG MBE does not have SA, so who cares? Seriously - do you really think anyone with an NDA is going to break it in a public forum by giving vague suggestions as to a release date other than what's been publicly stated? Your nail-biting customers are in no worse position than any other ISA customer. Those who have "moved on cuz we can't wait" will regret that decision, but hey - it's their decision to make... Patience, (gr)asshopper - all good things in their own time. :) From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Haigh Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] TMG Release Hi All, Now I know that those in the know are restricted by NDR's and other constraints but if I were to guess at there being a RC release Oct/Nov with the product being released to the public by Feb 2010, would it be a close guess? Been getting a lot of pressure from clients about when is TMG going to be available. They are some who have moved to other products already but I still have some hanging on as they have SA on the product. Thanks Andy