[isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
- From: Jerry Young <jerrygyoungii@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:18:19 -0500
Not a literal icepick, Silly. While a literal application of an icepick on
a firewall would result in its destruction, it wouldn't facilitate access to
what's on the other side (although I could argue that if you're close enough
to the physical server to physically assault it with an icepick, you could
simply bypass the firewall device all together). No... the icepick is but a
representation of a tool used to bypass an obstable.
Essentially, the image says to me: "User beware! TMG is vulnerable to tools
meant to bypass firewalls."
A welder's helmet would be a much better image. :P
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Thor (Hammer of God)
<thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Clever. But I doubt that was their intention, and if it was, using an
> ice pick against a firewall is still silly ;)
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ball, Dan
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 12:18 PM
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> *To:* 'isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> You missed the fire and ice part? **grin**
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Jerry Young
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 3:09 PM
> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> Nope... didn't interpret it either way presented, which are other, valid
> potential interpretations, and good examples of why the icepick is a poor
> choice.
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> I interpret the image of the icepick as a tool used to establish handholds
> in an otherwise unscalable wall of ice, eventually allowing one to overcome
> the icy obstable; you get access to areas you otherwise wouldn't be able to
> access without the tool.
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> Given that this is a firewall, it struck me as odd to present an image of a
> tool used to punch holes in wall facings which facilitate the ability to
> ultimately get past them.
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> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Thor (Hammer of God) <
> thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> What, you don’t like the “one piece tool dating back a millennia that only
> serves a single purpose and most people have never used before” metaphor
> that an ice-pick represents? Or the “this is what we think you should use
> to solve your Internet security issues?” approach?
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> I guess the upshot is that when management asks for a description of what
> TMG is and what it can do for a company, they can just give them an ice pick
> and that “this.” Like a Denny’s menu.
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Jerry G. Young II
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 7:19 AM
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> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> Any place we can write to impress upon TPTB that the image of an icepick to
> represent a top-tier protected access solution is incredibly less than
> reassuring?
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> Sent from my iPhone (changed for Thor's benefit :))
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> On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> We don’t get the choice in this.
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> ..sadly…
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> We had some good ideas for cover art (something akin to the t-shirts we
> gave out last year).
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Jerry Young
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:10 PM
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> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> An icepick? Seriously? Seriously??
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> Wonderful image for a firewall. I'm guessing the marketing person isn't
> technically in the know. :)
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> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> just in case you screwed it up, here it is again
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> http://mstmgbook.org/Chapters/SampleChapters.pdf
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> :p
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on
> behalf of Thor (Hammer of God) [thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> *Sent:* 15 January 2010 03:08
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> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> I still get nothin’. The link works, but I get a blank site.
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Jim Harrison
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:26 AM
> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> I hate when it does that…
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> http://mstmgbook.org/Chapters/SampleChapters.pdf
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Thor (Hammer of God)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:37 PM
> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] Re: TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> Kewl! Can you give us your OWA creds now?
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> *From:* isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Jim Harrison
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:32 PM
> *To:* isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [isalist] TMG Book goes to the printers!
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> You can grab your copy of the sample chapters here :
> http://mstmgbook.org/Chapters/SampleChapters.pdf<https://mail.microsoft.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=82f7eb1e407b499c86c9fe9de1679a3c&URL=http%3a%2f%2fmstmgbook.org%2fChapters%2fSampleChapters.pdf>
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> --
> Cordially yours,
> Jerry G. Young II
> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
> Young Consulting & Staffing Services Company - Owner
> www.youngcss.com
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> --
> Cordially yours,
> Jerry G. Young II
> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
> Young Consulting & Staffing Services Company - Owner
> www.youngcss.com
>
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Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
Young Consulting & Staffing Services Company - Owner
www.youngcss.com
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