Hi Paul, How's this: F:\>uptime exetert2 \\exetert2 has been up for: 114 day(s), 15 hour(s), 43 minute(s), 3 second(s) It would have probably been twice as long, but we moved. And don't get on me for updating :-) I'm trying to run it like a PIX, where it gets updated once every six year ;-P HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: pnoble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pnoble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:55 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: System specs http://www.ISAserver.org Cheers for the reply John, The 650 is supposedly the next model up from the 350 (we have two 350s here also) being based on p4 rather than p3, cpu usage never seems to be an issue, the whole system just seems to lack responsiveness or stability when running. Im going to try dedicate some time to run some performance monitors to see whats going on, but just watching the system monitor it seems nothing in the processes list is responsible for the system slow down. Does anyone have the recommended up time a isa2004 system should be - or as I suspect - is this actually indefinitely? Paul. -----Original Message----- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:18 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: System specs http://www.ISAserver.org Isn't the 650 considered a starter basic server? While the CPU and memory you mention is fine, it may be more the bus speed and drive I/O. You should set up performance monitor with the basic items to see where the bottle neck is. BTW, I am running ISA 2000 on Windows Server 2003 with Message Screener, Burstek Web filter, Burstek Log Analyzer and GFI Download Security on a Dell 350 with 1 GB PC133 memory, 1 GHz CPU and mirrored 7200 RPM ATA 133 drives and CPU is not over 25% unless I am running a report. This is with 50 users with heavy Internet usage and e-mail usage by half of them. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: pnoble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pnoble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:42 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] System specs > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Hi there! > > We've got ISA2004 running on a windows 2003 server here. The system specs > are as follows: > Dell 650SC Poweredge server, single cpu 2.4ghz P4 with 1gb RAM, 1x 40gb and > 1x 80gb disks. > > Its running in standard edge setup with two nics installed. It runs as web > proxy to all of our 100 users (of which normally about 40 are actively using > the net at any one time). It doesnt have a cache configured. > > We've also got Cyblock for ISA2004 webfilter installed. > > Reading around I cant find (probably being blind) recommended specs for a > user base of this size and whether this system should be able to cope with > the load its put under. Experience here has shown that the system doesn't > really like what its being asked to do, the server is often very > unresponsive to gui input, slow to serve up web pages via the proxy and > flattly refuses to run correctly with a cache enabled or when a vpn gateway > is setup on it. > > Looking at the spec I've worried that the single cpu is really bottlenecking > the servers performance and was looking for a bit of guidance as to whether > people think this system should be ok or if a dual 933 p3 with 3gb ram would > be a more suitable system for ISA to run on? > > I'm suspect of the 650 because we bought 4 650's all at the same time and > the others also exhibit increadibly poor performance compared to what I'd > expect of a server class system. > > Any help or direction to a useful resource would be much appreciated. > > Paul @ reflections. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: pnoble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx