[isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
- From: "Rob Moore" <RMoore@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:55:36 -0400
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Me, too, scripting wise.
When you "Check Name" to resolve the IP address, it resolves to the
internal name (delta.afsc.local), which puts me back to square one. Oh,
well.
Rob
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of John T (Lists)
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:29 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
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As for scripting editing of the HOSTS file, I have no idea since I am
extremely poor on scripting.
As for the external client, why not put the Public IP address associated
with the address you are trying to script directly into Outlook?
John T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of
> Rob Moore
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:14 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> How does that benefit a client that's never seen the inside of our
> network, and is not VPN'd into our network? Unless I'm mistaken,
> modifying the internal DNS of our internal network won't help that
> client. Hence the Hosts file. And in fact our internal network does
> have entries in the .org zone for mail.afsc.org, delta.afsc.org, and
> (of
> course) delta.afsc.local in the .local zone.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:09 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> Whatever entry you would put in the hosts file... Just put it in DNS
> instead. Am I missing something here?
>
> t
>
>
> On 4/14/06 9:34 AM, "Rob Moore" <RMoore@xxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:
>
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >
> > We actually do have a real split DNS, with a .org zone. We use it
> > for a few DNS entries. What would I need to put into it to make this
work?
> > It's got an entry for mail.afsc.org that points to the internal
> > address, as well as an entry for delta.afsc.org (the name of our
> > Exchange server is delta.afsc.local) that also points to the
> > internal
> address.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:26 PM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >
> > Why not just create a new zone for your .org in AD and skip the
> > whole hosts thing??
> >
> >
> > On 4/14/06 9:22 AM, "Rob Moore" <RMoore@xxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:
> >
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>
> >> Getting which to work? Here's the URL (posted in my original
> >> question)
> >
> >> for getting the RPC over HTTP to work:
> >> http://www.isaserver.org/articles/2004securerpc.html. It does work.
> >>
> >> My question is about editing the Hosts file via a script, so I
> >> don't have to instruct my users how to do it themselves (or where
> >> to put a pre-modified one). What I'd like to be able to do is give
> >> them a script and say, "Here, double-click this" and have the
> >> script make the
> >
> >> appropriate addition to the Hosts file.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rob
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:26 PM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
> >>
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>
> >> Uhm,
> >>
> >> With all that said and done how about posting the URL of the
> >> tutorial
>
> >> that Tom wrote (I think) on getting it to work?
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:10 AM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
> >>
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>
> >> Oops.
> >> Read it inside-out - I understood it as RPC/HTTP - you're actually
> >> using MAPI.
> >>
> >> The problem is that the OL clients are going to look for ".local"
> >> because that's the domain where the Exch server lives. As such,
> >> you have to give them this hosts file setting.
> >> This is one of the main reasons Tom (and I) dislike the ".local"
> >> domain construct.
> >>
> >> You can use a logon script to modify the hosts file.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Rob Moore
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 6:51 AM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
> >>
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>
> >> I'm not finding anything along those lines in the article by Tom.
> >> Where can I find that?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rob
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:32 AM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
> >>
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>
> >> What did you enter in the "Use this URL..." field?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On Behalf Of Rob Moore
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:55 AM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
> >>
> >> Using: ISA 2004 Standard, Server 2003, Outlook 2003.
> >>
> >> I've finally gotten around to implementing RPC over HTTP for my
> >> Outlook clients. We have a split DNS, with our internal DNS names
> >> ending in ".local".
> >>
> >> I've gotten an external client to connect, but only if I add the
> >> Exchange server's external IP address and internal name to the
> >> Hosts file on the external PC (as described in Tom's article
> >> http://www.isaserver.org/articles/2004securerpc.html
> >> <http://www.isaserver.org/articles/2004securerpc.html> ). When I
> >> configure the client, I put in "mail.afsc.org"--the public name of
> >> our
> >
> >> Exchange server--as the server name. When it resolves, it resolves
> >> to
>
> >> "delta.afsc.local"--the internal name of our Exchange server. This
> >> resolution works, even without the addition to the Hosts file.
> >> However, without the addition to the Hosts file, the client can't
> >> actually connect to "delta.afsc.local".
> >>
> >> So, these are my questions:
> >> 1. Is there a way around using the Hosts file?
> >> 2. If not, can someone tell me how to script the necessary info
> >> into the Hosts file? (I'm not much of a scripter, and I'd like to
> >> avoid giving my fairly non-technical users instructions for editing
> >> it
> >> themselves.)
> >>
> >> Alternatively, I suppose I could create the necessary Hosts
> >> file and give that to them. But there are a couple of problems with
> > that:
> >> first, our non-techie users would likely put it in the wrong place;
> >> second, I've found that our anti-spyware program also uses the
> >> Hosts file, and I don't want to mess that up.
> >>
> >> I can't use AD to make the changes to the Hosts file
> >> because many of the computers that need the change are personal
> >> computers that
> >
> >> are not members of our domain.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rob
> >>
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