[isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
- From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:14:21 -0700
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On 4/14/06 10:10 AM, "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:
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> Yeh - he needs to resolve his .local TLD externally.
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> Jim Harrison
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:09
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
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> Whatever entry you would put in the hosts file... Just put it in DNS instead.
> Am I missing something here?
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> On 4/14/06 9:34 AM, "Rob Moore" <RMoore@xxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:
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>> We actually do have a real split DNS, with a .org zone. We use it for
>> a few DNS entries. What would I need to put into it to make this work?
>> It's got an entry for mail.afsc.org that points to the internal
>> address, as well as an entry for delta.afsc.org (the name of our
>> Exchange server is delta.afsc.local) that also points to the internal
>> address.
>>
>> Rob
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:26 PM
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
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>> Why not just create a new zone for your .org in AD and skip the whole
>> hosts thing??
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>> On 4/14/06 9:22 AM, "Rob Moore" <RMoore@xxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:
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>>> Getting which to work? Here's the URL (posted in my original
>>> question)
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>>> for getting the RPC over HTTP to work:
>>> http://www.isaserver.org/articles/2004securerpc.html. It does work.
>>>
>>> My question is about editing the Hosts file via a script, so I don't
>>> have to instruct my users how to do it themselves (or where to put a
>>> pre-modified one). What I'd like to be able to do is give them a
>>> script and say, "Here, double-click this" and have the script make
>>> the
>>
>>> appropriate addition to the Hosts file.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:26 PM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
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>>> Uhm,
>>>
>>> With all that said and done how about posting the URL of the tutorial
>>> that Tom wrote (I think) on getting it to work?
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:10 AM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
>>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>> Oops.
>>> Read it inside-out - I understood it as RPC/HTTP - you're actually
>>> using MAPI.
>>>
>>> The problem is that the OL clients are going to look for ".local"
>>> because that's the domain where the Exch server lives. As such, you
>>> have to give them this hosts file setting.
>>> This is one of the main reasons Tom (and I) dislike the ".local"
>>> domain construct.
>>>
>>> You can use a logon script to modify the hosts file.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Rob Moore
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 6:51 AM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
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>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>> I'm not finding anything along those lines in the article by Tom.
>>> Where can I find that?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:32 AM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
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>>> What did you enter in the "Use this URL..." field?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Rob Moore
>>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:55 AM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Supporting RPC Outlook Clients
>>>
>>> Using: ISA 2004 Standard, Server 2003, Outlook 2003.
>>>
>>> I've finally gotten around to implementing RPC over HTTP for my
>>> Outlook clients. We have a split DNS, with our internal DNS names
>>> ending in ".local".
>>>
>>> I've gotten an external client to connect, but only if I add the
>>> Exchange server's external IP address and internal name to the Hosts
>>> file on the external PC (as described in Tom's article
>>> http://www.isaserver.org/articles/2004securerpc.html
>>> <http://www.isaserver.org/articles/2004securerpc.html> ). When I
>>> configure the client, I put in "mail.afsc.org"--the public name of
>>> our
>>
>>> Exchange server--as the server name. When it resolves, it resolves to
>>> "delta.afsc.local"--the internal name of our Exchange server. This
>>> resolution works, even without the addition to the Hosts file.
>>> However, without the addition to the Hosts file, the client can't
>>> actually connect to "delta.afsc.local".
>>>
>>> So, these are my questions:
>>> 1. Is there a way around using the Hosts file?
>>> 2. If not, can someone tell me how to script the necessary info into
>>> the Hosts file? (I'm not much of a scripter, and I'd like to avoid
>>> giving my fairly non-technical users instructions for editing it
>>> themselves.)
>>>
>>> Alternatively, I suppose I could create the necessary Hosts
>>> file and give that to them. But there are a couple of problems with
>> that:
>>> first, our non-techie users would likely put it in the wrong place;
>>> second, I've found that our anti-spyware program also uses the Hosts
>>> file, and I don't want to mess that up.
>>>
>>> I can't use AD to make the changes to the Hosts file because
>>> many of the computers that need the change are personal computers
>>> that
>>
>>> are not members of our domain.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
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