RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
- From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:18:18 -0500
Hi Jeff,
I you ever get desparate, T1 is only 395/mo in Dallas. Still expensive,
but if you are running a business, its a justifiable write off.
Thanks!
Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey M. Butte [mailto:jbutte@xxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:29 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
http://www.ISAserver.org
I do small business consulting on the side and find this to be quite
common. I had even ordered business DSL for my home and found they
botched the installation and put in residential. Their response was...
well it works so lets leave it alone. Now with the advent of Code Red,
they are blocking ICMP, TCP Ports 21, 23, 25, and 80. They have plans
to start blocking more (per tech support). My request for a new router
config for business is now going on 3 weeks of "we will get back to you
shortly". Also now since they no longer bridge business accounts, I
will have to pay for 4 IP addresses for the router so I can get one
static. If I did not originally have a business contract at a fixed
price, their new price would have cost me 4 times the residential.
Now with Covad, Rythms and NorthPoint either out of business or going
that way... I am busy with customer notifications of "Due to the chapter
11 of <fillintheblank> your service will be discontinued on
<fillinsomedate>"
Check out a good article at
http://www.emarketer.com/analysis/broadband/20010417_bband.html
- Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: JB Fields [mailto:jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:25 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
http://www.ISAserver.org
Yes, exactly. And so what if my family wants to look at vacation
pictures?
I sure wish I knew who to talk to among the people who regulate the
phone
companies.
JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
Washington, DC
From: "Musser, Dale" <musser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fixDate: Fri, 31 Aug
2001 07:14:07 -0400
http://www.ISAserver.org
I am with you!!!
Our cable provider blocks port 80 also even for business accounts.
We have a sbs2000 server and are having a constant battle. So far the
provider will not open it.
We tried to explain we dont want to web host but do want to get to
outlook web and they will not hear of it.
dm
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:35 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
http://www.ISAserver.org
I've got a facility in Baltimore, and we use Atlantech DSL (I see you
are in
DC, maybe they service you)... The startup costs were a bit high, but
the
service is excellent. The monthly is pretty cheap to- I think it is
something like $130 for SDSL 720k or something. You should check them
out
on DSLReports.com
The circuit rocks too- I'm consistently under 70ms; good enough to run
voice
over IP.
AD
----- Original Message -----
From: "JB Fields" <jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> A part of me figures this has to make sense with stuff like Code Red
running
> around, but yes! I don't want to ask about the price of a business
account!
>
> JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
> jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
> From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:55:52 -0500
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Hi JB,
>
> I suspect the large ISPs will all be moving to this model where they
> don't allow any unsolicited inbound to user subnets. The only way
you'll
> be able to publish servers is by getting a "business" account.
>
> The Internet just isn't as much fun as it used to be :-(
>
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JB Fields [mailto:jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:52 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Yep, I've been robbed. Port 12345 doesn't work, either.
>
> I'll turn off the DSL and move to a place that has cable modems.
Wanna
> bet
> that I don't do much business with Verizon in the future?
>
> JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
> jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
> From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:34:23 -0500
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Hi JB,
>
> That's pretty scary. If they've blocked PING and 80, maybe they are
> using dynamic packet filting so that only response ports are
available
> to their networks. That mean no unsolicited INCOMING packets.
>
> OUCH!
>
> Try this: Turn off packet filtering, and then change the WWW service
> port to 81 or 101 or something like that. Then see if you can browse
the
> web site on the ISA Server itself.
>
> HTH,
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JB Fields [mailto:jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:32 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Cc: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Neither works. You can't get to www.jbfields3.com because Verizon
> "capped"
> port 80, as the technical support person said it.
>
> JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
> jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
> From: "Sandy. Ryan" <sryan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:29:04 -0600
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> Surprisingly enough - its the Ip address.
> I had a similar problem - ended up calling Microsoft - the
configuration
> was fine --
> it was the silly IP --- you MUST use a FQDN to make ISA work - if not
> you are hosed.
> Sandy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JB Fields
> Sent: Thu 8/30/2001 8:24 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Cc:
> Subject: [isalist] Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> I've been very embarrassed, over the last few weeks, that I
> could not get my
> web publishing to work on my home site. As we were in the
> middle of the
> Code Red stuff, I was pretty philosophical about it. Tonight, I
> got down to
> business and went through everything with a fine tooth comb.
> Things didn't
> get better.
>
> I went to www.isaserver.org and went through the documents on
> web publishing
> a step at a time. No help.
>
> DNS wasn't an issue because I was doing the http://ip_address
> approach.
>
> Finally, something told me to ping my address from the
> Internet... nothing!
> It turns out that Verizon has curtailed our ability to access
> our servers
> attached to their DSL lines. I can get to the Internet, but
> people on the
> Internet can no longer get to me.
>
> JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
> jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
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