[isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 ->2006

  • From: Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:36:19 +0000

That would be sweet!
I could buy whatever laptop i wanted :)

She slept on the couch last night.....well the low temp was 32c overnight 43c 
during the day and the air conditioning is your best friend.

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2010 6:27 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

You "said not to?"  Are you trying to be your own wife?

t

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Greg Mulholland
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:22 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

My in my large environment of one host!
And i said not to go there..

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2010 4:43 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

Well, ESX might work just fine for you in your big environment, but I found 
that a mixture of HV with different roles suited me better.  Steve and I went 
back and forth on it,  but I finally tested out (and kept) making my HV box the 
DC with DNS so it didn't matter how other boxes came up (as in what order).  
It's very easy to isolate nics and I just like it better for my purposes.  
Sure, it can't do all the whiz-bang stuff ESX can do, but I don't need it to, 
and since I have to have those roles anyway, I chose to make them on the OS 
that supports my VM as well.

t

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Greg Mulholland
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:52 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

One day you'll see the light and as a matter of natural progression do what you 
know is best.
*tongue-->cheek* let's not go their again :)

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Jim Harrison
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2010 4:14 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

It's twu, it's twu! (three anti-social points for that quote)
I've been running virtualized ISA since ISA 2000.
Started with VMWare Server (that was Tom's fault), moved to Virtual Server, and 
now run Hyper-V almost exclusively.

Bear in mind that the MS Lifecycle Policy takes precedence. Neither ISA 2000 
nor ISA 2004 are in mainstream support.
http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2009/10/05/mainstream-support-ending-for-isa-server-2004-standard-edition-sp3.aspx
 discusses this.

Jim

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:22 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

This is also a perfect scenario for virtual environments.  I'm all HyperV all 
the time, and personally, I'd never go back.  Your restore options are 
fantastic, and you can literally work out everything you need on your 
development VM environment and literally just copy it over to production.    
ISA is supported in a production HyperV environment, so you might want to look 
at that, assuming you've not already done too much work on this.

t

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:53 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

I would have to use one of my own boxes to do it, but at this point, I think it 
would be worth it.  I have enough spare parts to build 3 new servers, so it 
would actually be nice to have a spare machine all pre-built once this upgrade 
is all done...

In fact, I could build the server tonight and it would give me the chance to 
get the SSL stuff all ironed out.  That way, I can have a preconfigured server 
known to be working, before I even walk into the NOC tomorrow night.

That is a wonderful suggestion, and I think I will do just that...

Thanks again guys and ttys :)

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Jim Harrison
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:58 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

Is there any chance you can do a rolling upgrade rather than in-place?
Doing so would help you avoid outages while you work through the inevitable 
problems...

Jim

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of 
Mike Anderson [mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:56 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006
Hello there,

That is precisely the information I was looking for - so thank you for clearing 
that up :)

I am sure I will have more questions later this morning regarding this, so 
please stay tuned - I have to do the upgrade to 2006 tomorrow evening and I 
have no option for failure.  That SSL Cert is the life-blood to this company, 
and when https is not working, they literally are losing money every minute 
it's not working.  Pretty scary position for somebody like me to be in, 
considering this entire task falls on my shoulders exclusively.

Again, thank you ALL for all your incredible help - we are indeed lucky to have 
a resource like this list available.

Mike

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:15 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: SSL no longer responds after upgrading from ISA 2004 
->2006

Mike,
My apologies; I hit the send button too soon. (O.o)
In answer to your question about CSR generation, if you're going to be 
installing a certificate on the ISA Server and only plan on using it there, 
you're going to have to create the CSR via IIS on another server. Once you get 
the certificate back from your chosen certificate authority, you'll have to 
install it on the surrogate IIS box, export it with the private key, and then 
import it into ISA Server.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Mike Anderson 
<mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello again,
I long ways back, we upgraded our ISA 2004 to ISA 2006 Enterprise and things 
seemed to go just fine until we tried getting the SSL stuff working.
In 2004, what we did previously was export our cert from our internal web 
server and installed it on our ISA Server. Then we simply published another web 
server (1 regular and 1 secure), so we had 1 listener for our regular Port 80 
and another listener for Port 443.
After upgrading to ISA 2006, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get the cert 
recognized to save my life. Just a FYI, we couldn't run the upgrade from 2004 
to 2006, because we were trying to upgrade from Standard to Enterprise. With 
that said, in order to install 2006, I had to first uninstall 2004 and install 
2006 fresh.
My question is: What is different about 2006 when it comes to certs? Must I 
generate the key and install the actual cert on the ISA Server itself? Since 
this is usually done from within IIS, can I generate a key within Windows 
Server 2003 itself since IIS won't be running on the ISA Server?
This is where I am very confused...
Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
Thanks,
Mike



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