RE: SQLSERVE.EXE MSDE instance for ISA 2k4

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:43:36 -0800

No.
Bad.
Unsupported.

DO
NOT
REPLACE
MSDE
WITH
SQL
ON
THE
ISA
SERVER
ITSELF

If you want to replace MSDE with SQL logging, then do it off-box.
The MSDE that's shipped with ISA is "tweaked" to be as secure as
possible.
If you replace it, you open your ISA to potential SQL vulnerabilities.

  Jim Harrison
  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Tsao [mailto:roy_tsao@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:51 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: SQLSERVE.EXE MSDE instance for ISA 2k4

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Sorry, the mail sent directly from my OE to discussion list 
always change mal-coding.

To the question of MSDE instance, my idea/suggestion for best
performance is:
  a) install ISA2K4 bundled with MSDE
  b) upgrade SQL instance "server/msfw" into full version 
     of SQL 2000 though SQL2000 server instllation
  c) use the same instance for Surfcontrol
Both of ISA2K4 and Surfcontrol is now being managed under 
SQL2000 server I/O MSDE.

Any comment

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 10:24 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: SQLSERVE.EXE MSDE instance for ISA 2k4

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Who here can read Roy Tsao posts, all I see is gibberish characters
in his messages, can someone translate it??

Regards,
Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 12:19 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: SQLSERVE.EXE MSDE instance for ISA 2k4

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In cases like this, isn't it better to just run a dedicated instance
of SQL Server (if you got it) which resides on a separate box, OR
have a single instance of MSDE host both Databases?

If I remember correctly, MSDE is just a crippled version of SQL
Server 7.0 - in which concurrent connections are just limited.
Otherwise, it's pretty much the same animal.

In fact, since I have a dedicated super fast SQL Server on my
network, I was hoping to uninstall MSDE on the ISA Box, and redirect
all the Database activity to my SQL Server.  Can this be done -
anybody do this yet?

I don't mean to steal the fire away from your original post, but I
think this sort of parallels what I suggest doing, which goes back to
the
question: "why have two instances of MSDE running?".  Use the one
that is working better (the one with less memory consumption), and
host the database on that instance.

I am just throwing out ideas here...

Mike 

-----Original Message-----
From: Crockett, Gregory [mailto:Gregory.Crockett@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 5:40 PM
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Subject: [isalist] SQLSERVE.EXE MSDE instance for ISA 2k4

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Anyone notice the MSDE instance for ISA 2k4 memory increase to over
1gb mem usage?  We host two instances of MSDE on the ISA2k4 machine,
one for Surf Control and the other for ISA2K4.  Surf Control instance
is stable, while the ISA 2k4 instance hogs a lot of memory.  Current
mem usage = 786,004k.  Wait, wait -- 786,012k , 786,528k and growing.


MSDE versions:          SurfControl = 8.00.761
                        ISA2k4      = 8.00.818

Server has 3gb memory
ISA2K4 version = trial

TIA

Have fun!

greg

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