It was about $3K for us, with the educational discount. Does that solution include hardware? ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Dzek Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:41 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: RainWall/RainConnect discontinued... That was a couple of years ago. I don't know the cost of RainConnect. So from your comment $5-7k is a reasonable facsimile? ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thomas W Shinder Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 9:55 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: RainWall/RainConnect discontinued... Hi Ray, Thanks for the tip! I didn't know the Linkproof was so reasonably priced. Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Dzek Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:27 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: RainWall/RainConnect discontinued... We used a Radware Linkproof. It is a DNS based load balancer. It uses DNS smoke and mirrors to tell inbound connections which connection to use. I think they are around $5k. The hardware was awesome, and so was the company to work with. Our network has grown quite a bit in the last year and so ISA and the Linkproof are kind of a side note in our network anymore. ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ball, Dan Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 5:37 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: RainWall/RainConnect discontinued... So, what do you recommend as a replacement? We have the latest version installed, but it's only a matter of time before it stops working without new releases... ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:39 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: RainWall/RainConnect discontinued... While a great product, I believe the downfall was 2 fold: Pricing: The pricing of the product put it into the enterprise class but the enterprise class already has tried and trued options that work great. The product would have been great in the medium size class, but the pricing put it out of reach. Design: By design, certain features required particular configurations and control, but many did not want to give that kind of control to the product. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:47 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] RainWall/RainConnect discontinued... Got this email today: May 22, 2006 Dear valued RainWall and RainConnect customer: This letter is to inform you that after careful consideration, EMC has decided to halt the sale of RainWall and RainConnect, the high availability solution for Microsoft ISA Server and CheckPoint firewalls. EMC customers of the Rainfinity Global File Virtualization (GFV), formerly known as RainStorage, are not impacted by this announcement. Rainfinity GFV customers will continue to receive engineering and technical support for one of EMC's most successful and strategic new products. For any Rainfinity GFV questions, please contact an EMC Sales Representative. Customers with a current RainWall or RainConnect Support Agreement will receive continued technical support assistance throughout the duration of their Support Agreement. EMC will continue to honor existing multi-year Support Agreements. EMC will continue to evaluate the business requirements for ongoing firewall application and operating system currency. Customers can renew existing Support Agreements or technical support pro-rated to December 31, 2007. End-of-Life service may extend due to contractual obligations. As always, we are committed to answering your questions and quickly resolving any issues that you may have. For assistance throughout this process, please contact us at: RainWall and RainConnect Sales/Business Support: +1-408-382-5000 or 1-877-RAIN-333 Email: rainwall-sales@xxxxxxx Technical Support: +1-408-382-5069 or 1-800-479-9880 Email: rain-support@xxxxxxx Sincerely, EMC