> Okay Jim, but think with me: But you are missing the point. A firewall to protect something. Game servers on programmed, built and designed to work, which means around firewalls. You are trying to violate one of the most basic security principles there is, and to be asking experts for a solution to violate that is akin to asking a fireman on how to start a fire. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com