Well, the main con of moving out (at least here in Brazil) is that if your DSL goes offline they have 72 hours to put it back online. You should take a look at the adsl contract and tell the customer about it. Here I afforded the risk and I had only three outages in 3 years, but I work in a place where there aren't many companies around. Here in the center of Curitiba, ADSL outages are very frequent, almost two per month Also, i don't know how's in Bermuda, but here in Brazil you only get one valid IP address which is bound to the modem, so the modem choice is also very important. I'd do a adsl trial and see what happens =) Tiago _____ De: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de dezembro de 2004 21:22 Para: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Assunto: [isalist] RE: Very much OT....a wee bit of advice asked for. http://www.ISAserver.org plain adsl...all we have in bermuda.... _____ From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:15 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] RE: Very much OT....a wee bit of advice asked for. http://www.ISAserver.org Which flavor of DSL? ADSL is the least costly, but lowest in quality. IDSL is the highest quality, but also the costliest. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:32 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Very much OT....a wee bit of advice asked for. http://www.ISAserver.org Hi guys......please excuse the very much off topic question, but I have a few questions, not related to ISA, however, I suppose it is tied into ISA. I have a customer, who at the moment has a fractional T1 (64K) internet conection, they actually have 2, one private, one for their public wireless network. This is costing them $220 a month, with a yearly charge of $225. If they switch ISP's, just for the private network to a DSL solution, they can get a 512 / 512 connection for $140 a month, quite a saving. Now bearing in mind, they need and want to up their bandwidth, can any of you supply the pro's and cons of moving to dsl and getting rid of the T1. 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