RES: OT: Backup Solutions

  • From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:07:53 -0200

Well Rob, we use one software called CA BrightStor High Availability Manager. 
It´s mainly intended to do replication of a specific server onto another, and 
it also has failover features, but it can be used for replication only. It does 
realtime replication to another box, it´s a real lifesaver.

 

Brighstor ARCServe Backup also lets you backup stuff onto a file system device 
that you can set on your home office, it´s a very powerful tool. It has a 
module called Image Option that works sorta like Symantec´s Ghost, in which you 
might be interested.

 

Check out www.ca.com

 

Tiago

 

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De: Rob Moore [mailto:RMoore@xxxxxxxx] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2004 12:09
Para: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Assunto: [isalist] OT: Backup Solutions

 

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Hello everyone-- 

This is off topic, but I'm asking because I figure a lot of you are involved in 
backing up servers. Hope you don't mind. (Considering all the "test" emails 
that go over the list, people ought to be used to a little OT noise!  ;-)

Anyhow, my boss is keen to ditch tape backups all together, and I agree with 
him. We have multiple servers in remote locations that all get backed up to 
tape (when the remote people remember to put them in). We have multiple local 
servers that get backed up to tape, but due to the number of them and the 
amount of data getting backed up, the backup process is getting progressively 
more complicated. So I'm looking for a solution that would initially allow me 
to backup the remote servers to some non-tape media, probably located here in 
our home office. Over time, I would probably want to move the local servers to 
the same, or at least a similar, backup scheme.

So far I have looked in depth at two solutions, neither of which is perfect for 
us. One is Veritas Storage Replicator. Basically, it makes an exact copy of a 
server (or whatever parts of that server you tell it to copy), onto another 
hard drive somewhere else, and then keeps it up to date. This works well over 
our wire to the remote offices. The problem with this approach is that you 
can't go "back in time" with it. Suppose, for example, that a person deletes 
half the content of a Word doc on Wednesday. Then on Friday she finds that the 
deletion was a mistake. The replicated data will only have a copy of the 
current file, which has been half deleted. The way around this, of course, 
would be to backup the replica copy, either to tape or to another hard drive. 
(This is what Veritas recommends.) But then I'm probably going back to tape 
again, and the job just got more complicated. I'm trying to ditch tapes and 
keep it as simple as possible. Oh, and keep the job as cheap as possible, too!

A second solution I've looked at is using a third party service. This solution 
is pretty ideal except for a couple of things. First, I'd have to rely on 
someone else to do an error-free job. Second, I'd have to pay on a monthly 
basis by the GB stored. Even with the significant up front costs of the first 
solution, it would pay for itself in a couple of years (or less) versus paying 
by the month.

So, I'm interested in any non-tape solutions that anyone else is using. What 
are the pluses and minuses? What's the software package? Etc. We are a mainly 
MS shop, so would prefer a Windows-based solution. But we would be willing to 
consider an open source solution.

Thanks for any input, 
Rob 
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Network Manager 
American Friends Service Committee 
1501 Cherry St. 
Philadelphia, PA  19102 
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Phone: 215-241-7870 
Fax: 215-241-7204 

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