[isalist] Re: Question and confession.

  • From: Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 04:56:52 +0000

Rofl..working with an Italian office currently I am surprised that you had some 
many references to vessels in that last email!!

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 2:31 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Question and confesion.

What?  No sex while drinking espresso?   What kind of Italian company ARE 
YOU??? :)

t

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of D PIETRUSZKA USWRN INTERLINK INFRA SHIFT MGR
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:29 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Question and confesion.

Hey, any problem last night that you want to fight with me?
I will explain you one thing, this is an Italian company so the priorities are 
as follow:


-          Espresso

-          Some more espresso

-          Emails

-          Espresso

-          Is lunch time already?

-          Espresso

-          Oops, the vessels

-          Espresso

-          We need a rest, let's go home

Of course, we don't allow the users to waste their "company paid" time on none 
sense stuff like facebook.


Regards
Diego R. Pietruszka

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:22 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Question and confesion.

Oh, so it's OK for your users to walk away from their desks and leave the 
applications open that control shipments on transportations vessels while they 
drink coffee in the kitchen for 4 hours, but damn the torpedoes if they want to 
look at Facebook, eh?

Nice.

t

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of D PIETRUSZKA USWRN INTERLINK INFRA SHIFT MGR
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:39 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Question and confesion.

Yeah, I understand, and to be honest before going into all the security 
concerns I was looking for a "NO, THAT CAN'T BE DONE WITH ISA" by that way I 
would pass the problem to them again.
The application was done with (I mentioned this crappy thing thousands of times 
here) JINITIATOR, it is a ridiculous forms builder from Oracle, compatible with 
nothing else but Oracle DBs and didn't respect any minimum standard of this 
world. The problem is, on our business (transportation Vessels) there is a lot 
of websites build based on Jinitiator apps.

Going back to the port opened for long time, is there a way to do it (I'm not 
talking about exact 4 hours, but yes a bigger than usual amount of time), I 
couldn't find anything on my own? If this is possible, then I will discuss with 
my boss the security concerns and is going to be his call on that.

Thanks

Regards
Diego R. Pietruszka

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Jim Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:23 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Question and confesion.

4 hours?!? On what basis does this particular individual offer this sage (or 
terragon) advice?
wattamaroon...
Let them reconnect. If hte application itself needed that much time, it can be 
built to send "heartbeats", like any other appli cation that expects a long 
idle time (EAS clients, ferinstance)

Asking to "leave a port permanently open" is asking for a DoS.

________________________________
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of 
D PIETRUSZKA USWRN INTERLINK INFRA SHIFT MGR [DPietruszka@xxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:22 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Question and confesion.
OK, first the confession:
I'm migrating to TMG (well no for own decision but.....)

Now the question and is not related to that migration.
Our users needs to use an application that goes over internet on port 7778 (the 
number is not really important but..), the problem is, my users work on this 
application and then they decided to take a coffee in the kitchen living the 
app opened. Since is an internet connection, the connection just become 
disconnected for inactivity, then the user come back click on some option of 
the app and receive an error, this is because the application doesn't have the 
capability to reconnect.
What the provider suggest is to increase the timeout for that particular port 
to 4 hours. My question is: Is there a way to do that on ISA (still 2006)?

Thanks

Regards
Diego R. Pietruszka

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