[isalist] Re: Putting ISA2k4 infornt of SBS
- From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:59:07 -0700
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Same here... Though I am looking into some co-location options for the
redundancy end of things...
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On 9/20/06 5:54 AM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
all:
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> LOL! That was years ago when I was a rube and didn't know which end
> eats, so I thought cheap meant reliable. :)
>
> I've rolled my own ever since and have never looked back. I'm a control
> phreak so I want totally control over my Web and e-mail. My dependance
> on the kindness of others stopped soon after the War of Northern
> Aggression.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:47 AM
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Putting ISA2k4 infornt of SBS
>>
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>> Must have been Jimmy Joe Bob's Bait and Web Hosting Shop. I heard the
>> hurricane took out the Presario. :( So how much did it cost
>> you to get
>> your site out of court?
>>
>> Amy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:36 AM
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Putting ISA2k4 infornt of SBS
>>
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>> Until the hoster goes bankrupt and takes your Web site to the court
>> auction ;)
>>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
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>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:24 AM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Putting ISA2k4 infornt of SBS
>>>
>>> A client has gone through this very costing exercise, of do
>>> we 'have someone
>>> do it for us, or do we do it ourselves', only last week.
>>>
>>> They made a policy decision right at the start, which I
>>> supported, that
>>> running it on the SBS server, which also had there e-mail,
>>> file shares,
>>> several client related SQL databases etc was probably not
>> the smartest
>>> approach, and so a second server was dictated.
>>>
>>> However, no mater which way they cut it, they could not even
>>> get close to
>>> the $ figure the hosting specialist companies charge for
>>> hosting a web site.
>>>
>>>
>>> Add on top of that the extra bits that the hosting specialist
>>> have, and
>>> through in a either zero or very few dollars, like multiple
>>> independent
>>> internet links, redundant servers, thick internet bandwidth,
>>> etc and it
>>> quickly become a no brainier.
>>>
>>> They also got a backup SMTP server & a 100Gbyte secure file
>>> store area,
>>> thrown in with the web hosting for the grand total of
>>> $au30/month, both are
>>> a very nice redundancy feature, that they were not initially
>>> looking for,
>>> but was a very nice deal sweetener.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006 21:52
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Putting ISA2k4 infornt of SBS
>>>
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>>> SBS is just a collection of servers residing on one box. It
>>> doesn't freak
>>> out any more than any other box. A DMZ is possible and you
>>> can install as
>>> many NICs as you wish into the SBS box. (see the blog)
>>> However, the connect
>>> to the internet wizard is only aware of 2 NICs. If you want
>>> to use that
>>> wizard and you have more than 2 NICs installed disable the
>>> additional NICs,
>>> run the wizard and then enable them. Your suggestion of
>> putting an ISA
>>> server in front of the SBS box is a good one but keep in mind
>>> that you'll
>>> have to purchase the licenses for it.
>>> The SBS license doesn't allow you to split off anything.
>>> Because of the cost
>>> of doing this most small businesses don't host their own website.
>>> Hosting is so inexpensive these days it's hardly worth
>>> hosting your own
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Amy Babinchak
>>>
>>> Harbor Computer Services
>>> (248) 546-6056 office
>>> (248) 890-1794 mobile
>>>
>>> http://isainsbs.blogspot.com
>>> http://keepitsecure.blogspot.com
>>> http://www.harborcomputerservices.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Steve diMascio
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:14 AM
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isalist] Putting ISA2k4 infornt of SBS
>>>
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>>> I've been asked to put a webserver online on an SBS2k3 (premium)
>>> installation. Obviously id prefer this webserver to be in a
>>> dmz, but the
>>> topology for sbs seems to not like this concept? 3 nics in sbs =
>>> wizard-killer? Or sbs-killer? As the company is growing in size (and
>>> surface), it seems like now's a good time to review there
>>> attack surface
>>> also.
>>>
>>> What I'm looking at is placing a front-end isa2k4 infront of
>>> sbs2k3 (with
>>> isa2k4), and using the front-end isa to direct the webserver
>>> traffic to a
>>> perimeter network, and the rest to the sbs box. I've had a
>>> look round and
>>> cant find many articles on this setup. I did read an article
>>> on isainsbs
>>> written by Amy, though there wasn't any info on how this
>>> scenario may affect
>>> the sbs box or its wizards.
>>>
>>> Anyway my reasoning for going this route is to get a couple
>>> of extra servers
>>> in there to reduce the one time cost of ditching sbs and
>>> separating the
>>> severs out, also having a dedicated (uncastrated isa)
>>> firewall will help me
>>> sleep better at night. The company has a server that's
>>> suitably specd to
>>> carry out the job, so the costs going to be isa (single
>>> proc). And they can
>>> live with that.
>>>
>>> So is this a viable solution, can sbs (premium) live behind a
>>> dedicated isa
>>> box without freaking out ? Or is there a better solution for them.
>>>
>>> Steve
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