Hi tom, I agree wholeheartedly with your statement, and I was also most impressed with the reply that Wilmar Perez sent you, He makes a very good point and presents it extremely well! To take topic one stage further: The basic principles of accounting are actually very simple, but to most people also terrifying, (hence accountants generally earn good dosh!) I know mine does!! The problem for most people is that a debit is actually a credit, thereby creating the impression of working in reverse, which confuses most. My experience with ISA server (which is very limited in the scale of things) seems to be the same, e.g. outbound is inbound and therefore very confusing when one tries to get one's head around it. I think an ISA server "How to Specific" Administrators Handbook would be an immediate best seller. Best regards. Rick Parsons ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: 14 June 2006 16:30 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Problems downloading .tar.gz Even better is a book that shows you how to understand the ISA firewall, so you can figure these things out yourself :) Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wilmar Perez Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:39 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Problems downloading .tar.gz Hello Rick I'm glad you have some extra points with your wife, it always helps (I guess). The how-to idea is quite good, actually I have tought about it too but haven't been able to take it to reality. Here goes a brilliant or stupid idea (you choose): let's write a how-to book for ISA Server 2006 (beacuse I think there's not much point or time on working on a project based on ISA Server 2004, what is done is done). Yes, I know it sounds adventurous, but dreams have always seen the light of the world that way, don't you think?. The list member could give us their ideas of how-to's they think are needed and we just find the way to show it in a nice an easy way. Regards, Wilmar Perez