RE: Port Scanners

  • From: Jim Harrison <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:13:32 -0800

<soapbox>
GRC.com?
Sorry William, but I wouldn't trust Steve Gibson to shave in the morning.
He's the one with primary responsibility for "stealth" and "open a port" in the 
public mind.
His tools are crap.  "LeakTest, for instance raises a BRF (big red flag) if you 
allow FTP through the firewall.  Unfortunately, most folks DO allow FTP 
outbound.  his "theories" are crap (remember the "raw IP in Windows" panic he 
raised a couple of years ago?) and his web site is little more than a 
panic-driving web-tabloid.
</soapbox>

Also, bear in mind that online scanning, no matter how well written, is only as 
accurate as the traffic policies in the devices between you and the scanning 
app.  For instance, an ICMP unreachable response to the scanner's request may 
flag as "ok", but not if it came from an intermediate device.  I'll bet may of 
the public scanning sites don't even validate this small, but important point. 

My fav's:

- online - www.qualys.com.  They are fast, accurate and don't use "pop 
networking" terminology or recent events to create a demand for their serviceor 
products.

- offline - scanline from www.foundstone.com.  You place it on a host just 
outside your ISA and let 'er rip.  You compare the scanline eport with your ISA 
logs and YOU KNOW the state of your firewall policies.
http://www.foundstone.com/index.htm?subnav=resources/navigation.htm&subcontent=/resources/proddesc/scanline.htm

  Jim Harrison
  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
  http://isatools.org
  Read the help / books / articles!


On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:59:31 +0200
 "William Robertson" <robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org

ShieldsUP (My favourite) - https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Outbound - http://www.hackbusters.net/ob.html

LeakTest (More for personal firewalls, but interesting nonetheless) -
http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm

 

Internet Storm Center (Just general interest regarding ports being used in
the WWW) - http://isc.incidents.org/

FireHole (Just for Interest's sake) - http://keir.net/firehole.html

BackStealth (Also more for outbound communication) -
http://edu.supereva.it/piorio/backstealth.htm?p

 

FoundStone (If you're concerned about ports etc, then it's always good to
know what these guys are doing) - http://www.foundstone.com/

 

Cheers

William R.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnson, Richard (NY Int) [mailto:rjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 28 October 2003 19:06 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Port Scanners

 

http://www.ISAserver.org

Can anyone recommend some port scanning sites that will tell me every single
port open on a server? 

 

Thanks, 

Rich 

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