> BTW, things are not just black and white.. there are a lot of grey > areas... > Just a small reminder, venom is used to prepare anti-venom shots, > controlled > usage of software such as Kaaza will help people in adding to there > technical skills, I would rather make my network more secure, than just > blocking and policing. Absolutely 100% correct. Problem is, most people that come on here asking how to allow Kaaza are just trying to please users, not completely taking security into consideration. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You