OT: Re: ISA newbie with remote administration questions
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:26:43 -0500
Hi Steve,
Man, don't even get into Table PCs. Debi has a tablet PC from Toshiba,
and its wireless NIC is a joke. It won't work with Dlink WAPs and they
even have a KB on the issue. I will never buy a Linksys because the only
way Cisco will get any money from me is if they pry it from my cold,
dead hands.
Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:02 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA newbie with remote administration questions
http://www.ISAserver.org
Have you had your tablet today??
:)
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:56 PM
To: ISA Mailing List
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA newbie with remote administration questions
http://www.ISAserver.org
What more do you want? I told you how to do it your way, if you still
want to do it with GoToMyPC (note reference to packet filters, though
you still have not told anyone what version of ISA you are using, which
is kinda important if you want help.)
You were also given very valuable advise on an alternate solution- a
*better* solution - that would increase the overall security posture of
the client.
No one was on a soapbox, but I'm going to be now: Of course one can't
always build the "perfect" solution, but with minimal research and
careful implementation, you can build better, workable, and more secure
solutions.
You said you didn't like TS because of "personal preference" but
provided no technical reasons why you can't implement it. The advise
given is what allows you make the best out of a bad situation,
particularly in the absence
of any information that otherwise obviates best practices. This is
from
*your* website:
"Instead, we pride ourselves on being one of the few consulting
companies that uses best practices to craft solutions that meet our
clients' needs. We are not interested in 'magically' transforming our
clients' desires into those that nicely fit into cookie-cutter
solutions. We never take the easy way out. We take the correct way out,
all the while working towards efficient, scalable, and complete
solutions."
The words above to not match the actions of a consultant who loads 3rd
party HTTP-based remote-access software on the firewall itself (software
designed specifically to "by-pass firewalls"), can't figure out how to
do it, posts to a list, gets the information he wants in addition to a
better (free) solution, but still whines about how we're not being
helpful.
It's HTTP - pretty easy stuff. Is that helpful enough for you?
T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffry Nimeroff" <jeffry.nimeroff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA newbie with remote administration questions
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Wow, I have never seen such an insecure group (no pun intended).
There
> are quite a few reasons why I asked the question the way I did. I
wanted
> suggestions about HOW to do something, and received deprecating
comments
> about WHY I was doing something.
>
> If you get off your soapboxes long enough you might see that in some
> cases, the goal is to make the best out of a bad situation. Sometimes
we
> can't build the "perfect" solution.
>
> Better yet, should my original posting have included comments like
"why
> anyone would try to build a security device on top of the Windows
> operating system is beyond me, but..." or "while I personally would be
> using a hardware firewall, this client is using Windows ISA, running
on
> top of an OS that I wouldn't use in a production environment if my
life
> depended on it."
>
> Try to be a little more helpful next time...
>
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