RE: OT: Fire suppression in server room
- From: Alexandre Gauthier <gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:18:17 -0500
I miss Halon systems. They're illegal here now -- but damn that was
effective. Plus, you could give the excuse for a crash: "Someone was smoking
in the server room and the halon system killed the engineers."
Plus, watching the thing go off was always impressive, it was like, end of
the world, the room shutting down with big red spinning lights, a nuclear
warning sound. The "pressure" change (I'm not sure what it was) would cause
the elevated floor tiles to pop out of their sockets. Damn sweet.
Here we use sprinklers. Water. UPSes are not being shut down either. The
conversation with the IT manager here went somewhat like this:
-"Hey, I was wondering, what's the fire suppression system here like?"
-"Sprinklers."
-"Okay, what chemical agent, out of curiosity?"
-"Water"
-"... will the power shut off first?"
-"No."
-"... uh... that's not exactly effective, you know?"
-"Yes, it is."
-"Where's the safety feature? I mean, you know, I'd rather seeing the server
racks burn, rather then short and *then* burn."
-"Oh it's there. Called insurance and off site tape backups."
I walked back to my office wondering if working for that company really was
a good idea after all. Next thing I'll know, if my office catches on fire,
they'll have stealth operatives shooting me in the head to spare me the pain
of burning.
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Envoyé : 22 décembre 2005 13:35
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Objet : [isalist] RE: OT: Fire suppression in server room
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Done. :)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:42 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Fire suppression in server room
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> EEEEeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!
>
> Water for electronic fire suppression?!?!?
> Tell your building manager that he's SO fired!!
>
> If you're not using CO2, Halon or a dry chemical system, you're just
> asking for more pain than you need (but maybe not more than you
> deserve?).
>
> Also, if your fire system doesn't kill power to the servers FIRST,
> you're really in for some fun. The emergency power kill
> *MUST* disable
> any UPS as well or it's useless.
>
> Tom; you need to forward this query to "you-know-who" -
> she'll love it.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Moore [mailto:RMoore@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:32 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] OT: Fire suppression in server room
>
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>
> Hello all--
>
> This is rather off topic, but I figured you all probably have
> experience
> with this. I KNOW you'll have opinions! :-)
>
> Our current server room is just a room in our department. The
> only fire
> suppression in there is a fire extinguisher hanging on the
> wall--nothing
> automated. We're building a new server room in the basement,
> though, and
> the space already has water-based sprinklers. The building manager
> thinks that should be fine. ("If the sprinklers go off, we
> just dry off
> the servers with a hair dryer and start them back up.") But I'm not so
> sure. I know he sees it from a cost point of view--the cost
> of building
> the room--whereas I see it from the cost of having to replace
> water-damaged servers, not to mention having downtime while
> we do that.
>
> What sort of automated fire suppression systems (if any) do you have?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
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