I have all of my internal clients using Norton Corporate edition, and they all get updated from the Norotn server that i have configured on the netwrok, and all works like a charm. I have Norton installed on ISA, and ISA is not managed so it doesnt get updated with the rest of the clients. When i try and do a live update on the ISA server it fails. I have tried many different configurations from within Norton, but nothing seems to work. Is there a packet filter that i must creat for this? Thanks Skip