RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
- From: "Ball, Dan" <DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:12:13 -0500
Hey, I got a stack of Cisco 2505s that we're giving away if you want to
experiment...
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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:48 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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Hi Tungsten,
I hear a lot of how difficult it is to upgrade the IOS, but I don't know from
personal experience, since the only way Cisco will ever get any of my money is
by prying it out of my cold, dead hands.
The problem is more related to the perception that its not requried -- since
these devices were forged by Zeus with alloys created by all the pantheon, why
monkey around with the eternal?
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:22 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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> I must be lucky... I just copy over the .bin file, reload, confirm my
> config, re-save the running config to startup and move on.
> I've never
> really had a problem updating my IOS, and I was one of the
> early deployers
> of Voice over Frame with the MC3810 series (which went
> through several
> revisions). I've been doing it for years and years now.
>
> Do you other folks really have that much trouble upgrading
> Cisco IOS? I was
> not surprised to hear Pescatore bitch about it, but that is
> for a different
> matter completely..
>
> t
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:56 PM
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> Hell, who wouldn't want a self-update mechanism? Updating IOS is so
> painful that you're almost giving up when you think about it.
>
> That's a Cisco-Engineer trouble ticket generator, that's what it is.
> Same old story as the hardware firewall: As long as it's flowing hot
> air, it's ok.
>
>
>
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> >>> DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx 27/10/2005 23:08 >>>
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> Here is it, from Tuesday's SANS NewsBites Vol. 7 Num. 47:
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> ---
> --Cisco Customers Unaccustomed to Updates
> (20 October 2005)
> Cisco CSO John Stewart says that because Cisco customers are
> unaccustomed to updating their network hardware operating system on a
> regular basis, many are still running old versions of the company's
> Internetwork Operating System (IOS). Mr. Stewart says Cisco has not
> adopted automatic patching because its customers do not want it. He
> hopes that the outcome of an unexpected vulnerability disclosure
> earlier
> this year will be that Cisco IOS users upgrade to the latest version
> to
> protect their systems.
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/print.htm?TYPE=story&AT=
> 39217949-2
> 000061744t-10000005c
> [Editor's Note (Pescatore): The issue is more that it has been really,
> really painful to update IOS. It isn't a patch action, it is a shut
> down and reload the OS action, which is very disruptive to the network
> and very manpower intensive. While the best solution is always better
> software development processes to reduce vulnerabilities, software
> vendors (and switch vendors ship a lot of software) have to invest a
> lot
> to make the patch process easier and faster for their customers.
> Microsoft learned this back during the worms of 2001 and now most
> enterprises can patch Windows much, much faster with much less pain.]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:41 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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> Hi Dan,
>
> That would be great!
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> **Who is John Galt?**
>
>
>
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