Yeah - not sure what "magic" solution is being sought here... Either point the clients to the ISA as SNAT clients or configure the clients via DNS, etc... If the problem is that they get their config from the wireless device, then don't do that... Turn off DHCP on that guy and set up your own DHCP server on that segment or set up a DHCP relay... Easy 'nuff.... t From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:37 AM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Re: No proxy, Well, you will have to find a way. Your clean access network still needs a route to your Internet Gateway. If it doesn't know about it, then neither will your wireless clients and they will never get out to the internet. This isn't an ISA issue, it's a networking issue. S From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ruba Al-Omari Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:24 AM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Re: No proxy, I can't do that, I need the gateway to be the network clean access server, which asses the users laptops when they need to connect to the network resources. Thanks, Ruba ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Steve Moffat Sent: Thu 1/17/2008 1:39 AM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Re: No proxy, The gateway for the wireless controller needs to be the ISA's IP address. S From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ruba Al-Omari Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:16 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Re: No proxy, Thank you steve, The clients don't get the IPs from my Windows DHCP server, they get it from the wireless controller, in my case I have a red vlan where users are allowed only to access the internet with a rule that takes them to the proxy without having to be compliant, if they need to access other network resources then they are redirected to the remedy server and checked for compliance and then issued an IP from my real DHCP, but in this case where I don't want them to have to put the proxy they only need to access the internet and do not have access to my network. the wireless controllers DHCP options are very limited, but is there a workaround this? ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Steve Moffat Sent: Tue 1/8/2008 11:30 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Re: No proxy, Indeed, is your DHCP server not supplying the gateway address?? Use the ISA auto configuration in DNS S From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ruba Al-Omari Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:23 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] No proxy, Hi, Is there a way to let my users browse the internet without having them put the ISA server's IP in their internet explorer? and without having to install a firewall client. The case is I have wireless network, and I like the users to start browsing once they are connected (after authentication), however these users laptops are their own, so they are not part of my domain and I have no control over them with the group policy, if they put the proxy IP manually in their IE every thing works fine, but I want them not to have to do that, any advice? Thanks, -- Ruba Al-Omari