Friday morning, life was great. My website was working. I could connect to the secure pages using SSL. Clients connected just fine using a combination of web proxy and secure nat. MSN messenger logon was automatic. Other programs we use connected fine (Credit card verification etc..). Then, I rebooted. Got the Proxy Chain Loop error on every page I tried to access, both from inside and outside the isa server. I am running SBS 2000. I know that aint the greatest but it worked great until the reboot friday morning. Being Unable to work around the chain loop error I ran the ICW (Internet Connection Wizard). Got the web site back up and running. However, I cannot get SSL working. I have Tom's Book and although that seemed to get it working last time, this time it does not. Also, my workstations in the office can't connect to MSN messenger and I had to change the proxy setting and actually include our local domain in the list for "Bypass proxy server for Local domains" which I didn't have to do before. Simply checking the box was enough. I get the feeling that the secure nat isn't working properly because last time Everything went great once that seemed to work. Any ideas are appreciated. My clients to dhcp and have the sbs server as the gateway. How else do I verify securenat connectivity? How do I change web proxy settings on the server. I did get some unable to pind to 127.0.0.1 errors, althought I don't see them since the last reboot. Anyway, I am confused and frustrated. I usually figure things out fairly quickly but since the upgrade to sbs 2000 about 3 weeks ago I haven't had much peace. I can only cross my fingers. TIA, --------------------- David Mineer --------------------- Don't wish it was easier; wish you were better. Don't wish for less problems; wish for more skills. Don't wish for less challenges; wish for more wisdom.