Re: New List
- From: David Dellanno <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 04:54:41 -0400
I hate to say it Anthony and this is not a flame, but I think you bring out
a bigger issue to the group in general that most of the IT engineers faces
everyday and sympathize with Steve's situation. Today's internet users,
demands and standards have increased for any technology that is out in the
public domain to work seamless and very rarely have a glitch. A user does
not have any concern how much effort, resources, and time for such
technology to work and unfairly compare a much small organization's
resources to a much well establish organizations (exp. Microsoft, apple,
IBM, hp, Compaq, or your organization). This is something to keep in mind
and it keeps most of the smaller organizations reaching for those standards
too. It has been brought to everyone's attention that the 'ads' are only a
temporary solution and that they are currently working to resolve this issue
in the near future. To have an 'ad' to be much of a distraction or an
inconvenience for something this trivial. There is so much more then this
forum that isaserver.org provides and I find it very valuable free resource
to the IT industry and I believe it is too premature to leave. It is great
to see the offers and support that the owners have received from the list
but I am sure they have their reason to keep their forum on their own site.
JMO
David V. Dellanno
...it will be a hard life..one without reward...without remorse....without
regret. A path will be place before you... the choice is yours alone...do
what your think you cannot do. It will be a hard life...but you will find
out who... you really are.
-Qui-Gon Jinn
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Michaud [mailto:anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:49 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: New List
http://www.ISAserver.org
When you're following a thread that's compromised of 1-2 sentence
replies, and there are a few of them, you can be guaranteed that the
add's won't be trimmed out, so a 1/2 page email chain gets expanded to
over two pages - that slows things down far more than google does.
--
Anthony Michaud
Network Administrator
eLogix Corporation Pty Ltd
Blessed are those who have no expectations, for they will never be
disappointed. --Buddha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 13:14
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: New List
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> <giggle>
> That's sounds like a lot more effort than just scrolling past the
> "offending" entry in your free mail, but then it seems to
> bother me less...
>
> Jim Harrison
> MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Michaud" <anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:54 PM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: New List
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Quite simply - tough. There is no *need* to provide a list with
> advertisements - period. There have been at least two offers, and i'm
> sure there will be more if the request goes up - this can't
> be an issue!
> List members have asked for no adds (and yes, I'm definitely one of
> them) so why is there a problem? Besides, I don't have a problem with
> this - I'll unsubscribe, and if I can't live without the list
> (theres a
> world of http sites that (although maybe slower) may have the
> information required). Failing that, subscribing for a quick
> question,
> getting the answer, then getting off will suffice for me too.
>
>
> --
> Anthony Michaud
> Network Administrator
> eLogix Corporation Pty Ltd
>
> Blessed are those who have no expectations, for they will never be
> disappointed. --Buddha
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 09:42
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > Folks, let's get a clue. Steve is creating, providing and
> > moderating the
> > list. I agree that ads can be a nuisance, but it's not the
> > end of the world
> > if we get them with our *free* listserv. Like the SLA you
> > get with the
> > advice on this list...
> >
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Michaud" <anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:33 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Chetcuti [mailto:isainfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 20:40
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > The ads are gone also, though Lists are quite expensive to
> > > keep, therefore i
> > > might eventually introduce adverts again, though this time,
> > > they will be
> > > promoting ISA Server related products and i will leave the
> > > ads at the bottom
> > > of the messages for minimal inconvenience.
> >
> > Why? They prove nothing, only to annoy most subscribers of
> the list.
> > You've had at least two offers to host the list - so this
> > should not be
> > an issue! The problem with advertising on such a widely distributed
> > mailing list is that the advertisements are going to be
> applicable to
> > some of the list - unless you specifically look for
> products that the
> > newer staff don't know about, and that haven't been
> discussed already.
> >
> > I seriously doubt that advertisers will generate any income,
> > and the net
> > result will be that you're sending out *more* data, annoying
> > list users,
> > although you might slightly offset the cost of running the list.
> >
> > I'll stand by the statement that if advertising becomes too
> > inconvenient, I'll either move to another list that doesn't have
> > advertising, or another medium altogether.
> >
> > I would like to ask that if you do decided to put advertising
> > on anyway,
> > before advertising please notify the list with adequate
> lead time, to
> > either voice opinions again, or to unsubscribe.
> >
> > Anthony.
> >
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