so when you run them as secureNAT do you tell the rule to allow them by ip address or range? This is what I do with my Macs and they work just fine. OS 9 and X ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike-TechniSource" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: [isalist] Mac problems - desperate for help! http://www.ISAserver.org Hello All, I've had very mixed results, using ISA 2000 with Macs behind the firewall. A problem I am having presently, is our Mac clients (using POP3) in regards to retrieving their e-mail. They can retrieve their e-mail - BUT they are not able to SEND mail - and they have SMTP authentication turned on (because it's required by their ISP). I am not sure if the SMTP auth is adding another level of complexity to the situation - but turning it off is not an option. Are there any tidbits of information you can throw my way, or any articles that will explain all of the ins and outs of running Macs in a ISA 2000 environment? I know there are no ISA Software Clients for the Macs (which is really unfortunate) - and they are forced to run as a Secure-NAT clients which under normal circumstances, *should* be good enough. BUT in this case, hardly anybody can send e-mail - and of course, the PC's work flawlessly. I don't want to sound like a Mac Basher, but why must EVERYTHING be so darn difficult, the moment Macs enter into the picture???? Thanks very much in advance for any info you can offer. Mike ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: ntpro@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist