RE: Licensing

  • From: Jim Harrison <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:23:36 -0800

In the defense of that call, we just added a bunch of front-line folks in 
Canada that we're "brining up to speed".

  Jim Harrison
  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
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  Read the help / books / articles!


On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:39:57 -0500 
 Glenn Maks <gmaks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Thank you Jim for that clarification, I know Microsoft trips over themselves
when it comes to understanding Licensing, they make it so complicated that I
don't think they know themselves, I had to use my MSDN copy to setup and
test in parallel with my old Raptor firewall product, I was not about to
un-do many weeks of work setting up 5 ISA server all of which are in
opposite sides of the globe, connecting all the branch offices together
using RRAS with L2TP in addition to functioning as the firewall box for each
office, I just purchased the correct number of copies and left the install
alone using MSDN, all is well and the computers do not know the difference
between MSDN and distributor purchased copies. I thought something did not
sound right, but then again I was speaking to a Microsoft ISA support
engineer while working through some implementation issues, I did not want to
argue over what I was being told.

 Thanks again Jim

This discussion group has really proven it's worth with folks like yourself
and Tom, much appreciated.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:14 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Licensing


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That statement is patently false.  Call them back and tell them I said
"liar-liar-pants-on-fire" (or your choose favorite infantile response).
Whomever you spoke to "at Microsoft" hasn't a clue how ISA functions.  ISA
neither knows nor cares about the CAL for the underlying OS and the OS is
completely ignorant of the ISA connections (among other things).

Client connections through ISA DO NOT have any association with per-user
licensing that is enforced by the OS for connections handled by Windows
services.

The MSDN license only limits you to using those bits for testing and dev
work, not the number of clients that can access ISA.

 Jim Harrison
 MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
 http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver
 http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison
 http://isatools.org

 Read the help, books and articles!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glenn Maks" <gmaks@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 09:28
Subject: [isalist] RE: Licensing


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In speaking with Microsoft regarding your question, because I used my MSDN
copy of ISA for testing purposes, Microsoft told me that every connection
into ISA uses
a single license and when it reaches it;s limit ISA will refuse any
connecting attempt beyond that. You might want to confirm this though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rascher William [mailto:wrascher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:50 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Licensing


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Does anyone know what happens with ISA (and any http connections) when the
concurrent licensed connections is exceeded? Are connections Q'ed?

William

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