RE: Kind of OT: Software-based vs. Hardware-based Firewall
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:12:18 -0500
Hi Han,
If you'll pardon my French, what the f**k are you talking about?
You on the Cristo or Netscream payroll or something? Are you confusing
firewalls with routers?
You can choose a Route or NAT relationship between any two networks. If you
want a dumb, low level, over priced device, you're welcome to spend the $36K
for the Netscream -- I guess you're willing to pay that premium for NetBEUI
support? You'd think for that price they would have completed MS's work to get
JetBEUI in the box too.
Tom
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From: Han Valk [mailto:Han.Valk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tue 10/19/2004 2:15 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Kind of OT: Software-based vs. Hardware-based Firewall
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I'm very disapointed at ISA2004. I thought Microsoft would have build in the
possibility to disable the #%$&$ NAT which they didn't at least not at the
cost of loosing filtering at the higher levels. Therefore in my opinion it
makes ISA2004 less suitable as an edge firewall in a scenario that uses a DMZ
between 2 firewalls. That so called routed is still NAT. I don't like the
argument that in the 'routed' scenario the ip-adresses are 'hidden' from the
internet, that is security by obscurity which is poor man's security.
Han.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ara.A [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 00:17
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> Hardware-based Firewall
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> Wow. Nice article Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: October 18, 2004 11:30 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Kind of OT: Software-based vs. Hardware-based
> Firewall
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> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Hi Nef,
>
> Tell you boss to read it an weep :-)
>
> http://isaserver.org/articles/2004tales.html
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nperez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nperez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:20 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] Kind of OT: Software-based vs. Hardware-based
> Firewall
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> I'm trying to answer my boss' argument that hardware based firewalls
> (such
> as Cisco and Watchguard) have no real advantage over a software based
> firewall, such as ISA. My opinion (and this is just my
> opinion!) is that
> hardware based firewalls do have an advantage in terms of security and
> speed. It is more scalable, better throughput, faster then
> most software
> solutions, and no OS (Windows) which can have holes & bugs! We have a
> remote site that we connect to and I think implementing a
> hardware based
> firewall will enhance our security and throughput. We
> currently have it
> setup ISA to ISA on both ends.
>
> I know there will be some bias here - after all this is an ISA forum!
> But
> can anyone shed some light on this? Or direct me to some good
> resources?
> I
> didn't find much on isaserver.org.
>
> Thanks!
>
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