RE: Is this the right way to add these "internal" networks

  • From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Isa Weblist" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:19:37 +0100

It's through an ipsec vpn....site to site

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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:56 AM
To: Isa Weblist
Subject: [isalist] RE: Is this the right way to add these "internal"
networks


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Hi Steve,
 
Could be an unsupported scenario. If you're trying to get Firewall
clients working behind the two-bit non-ISA firewall, its a strong
indication that an upgrade is needed.
 
Tom
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:35 AM
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"internal" networks
        
        
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        done all that...doesn't work...bummer

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        From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:03 PM
        To: Isa Weblist
        Subject: [isalist] RE: Is this the right way to add these
"internal" networks
        
        
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        Hi Steve,
         
        Should matter what side of the link the Firewall client is on,
since it just points to the internal interface of the ISA firewall.
However, since the firewall client doesn't use the LAT anymore, it can
be a bit tricky or not work at all. Might try a locallat.txt and see how
that works for you. 
         
        Tom

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        From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:54 PM
        To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
        Subject: [isalist] RE: Is this the right way to add these
"internal" networks
        
        
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        Tom
         
        How do you get the fw client to work at the other end of a site
to site vpn??  ISA2k4 and Linksys vpn endpoint?
         
        Steve

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        From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:30 AM
        To: Isa Weblist
        Subject: [isalist] RE: Is this the right way to add these
"internal" networks
        
        
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        Hi Rob,
         
        Is this the "network within a network scenario" discussed in the
help file? If so, I've got a big section on this issue in chapter 4 of
the book. A lot of people are running into this problem and its sort of
interesting once you bring the Firewall client into the mix :-))
         
        Tom
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                -----Original Message-----
                From: Rob Moore [mailto:RMoore@xxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:22 AM
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                Subject: [isalist] Is this the right way to add these
"internal" networks
                
                
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                Good morning-- 

                My network consists of one main network (172.17.200.0)
which is connected to a bunch of remote networks (192.168.x.x) through
VPNs maintained by IPCop firewalls. The IPCop (freeware) firewalls all
VPN back to the home office, here, to another IPCop firewall which is on
the 172.17.200.0 network.

                On my previous firewalls (ISA 2000 and something called
WinRoutePro) all I had to do was create static routes to a given
network, indicating that the internal IPCop firewall should be the
gateway for these sites and voila, traffic flowed. After struggling with
this on ISA 2004 for a while this morning I've come up with two
additional necessary steps: 1. I have to add the various 192.168.x.x
networks to the Internal network; and 2. To ping or RDP to those remote
networks I have to create a firewall access rule that allows pinging and
RDPing from the Internal Network to All Protected Networks. (I suppose
I'll have to set up similar rules for the other traffic, such as SMTP
and HTTP, that goes between the home site and the remote sites?)


                Is this the "right" way to do this? Is there a better,
more secure way? 
                Thanks, 
                Rob 

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