Hi Jim, Can I be the Howard Stern of the Internet community? Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:56 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Is my N/W safe? http://www.ISAserver.org <my .02> I agree with Greg that there are *many* sites out there that offer you "port scan" functionality, but the thing you have to remember is that a remote port scan is only as accurate as the devices between the testing and tested devices. Basically, if you can't install the scanning tool on a machine in your "external" network, the test is suspect. I have to disagree with Greg regarding the usefulness of anything coming from GRC.com. Without getting into a gory details, I consider him the "Geraldo Rivera" of the Internet community. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:59:58 +1000 "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Steve Gibson's site is ok and I agree it will give the appearance of a "secure" firewall from the outside looking in. You could also use GFI's Network Security Scanner to run a test on your external ip. You will need to do this from a machine outside the network for a real result tho. No doubt that your "port scans" will show up nice and tasty but theres no point of having a closed port 80 if you host a website. You should almost always have open ports (theres that phrase you like Tom) for services like http, ftp blah blah but it's the configuration and security of the machines that run those services which counts for allot. My advice would be to read the guides on www.isaserver.org to ensure that you have configured your firewall and servers correctly as this can be your biggest danger point. The software's no good if its misconfigured. The more info you can read and retain on configuring the services you need the better you and your network will sleep at night. Greg Mulholland Krystaltek Solutions greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.krystaltek.com -----Original Message----- From: Ray Dzek [mailto:rdzek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:52 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Is my N/W safe? http://www.ISAserver.org If you would like a nice quick false sense of security or something that you can show management, go to some place like http://www.grc.com and run ShieldsUP. It does a fairly thorough scan of your network and will show how "stealthy" your new network has become since you implemented ISA. It looks pretty and is fairly meaningless which is typically right up managements alley. (No offense to any management types that may be reading this list... Seriously. I'm not kidding. I really mean it.) Elvis "The King" Presley Network Operations Supervisor Specialized Bicycle Components -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:10 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Is my N/W safe? http://www.ISAserver.org There is no such thing as 100% safety. The question is: "is my network safer than it was before?" Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: dhanu patil [mailto:dhanupatil@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:54 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Is my N/W safe? http://www.ISAserver.org http://ISAServer.org Hi all, I have just installed and configured ISA 2000 SP1 server, with some basic configuration allowing HTTP,MSN access, how can i confirm that my LAN is safe from hackers or intruders, Is there any way to prevent such things? thanks & regards, Dhananjay ________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN toolbar! 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