As far as VOIP, it is more of programming clashing. The programmers are creating a object, but instead of taking into consideration real world implementations, are going by standards for that product. ISA is an Enterprise class firewall. It is not perfect. No firewall is perfect. That is why it is always recommend to use a multilayered approach. \ While other firewalls may be easier for VOIP, they can not do functions that ISA can. The more technology is used, the more it will be complex. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: Ray Dzek [mailto:rdzek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:54 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Is ISA a good fit? http://www.ISAserver.org Request For Information... It appears that lately I seem to be finding all the things that ISA cannot do. Is ISA supposed to be an "Enterprise" level application that can truly support Enterprise level needs? Or am I simply just asking too much of ISA. I am asking this sincerely. I have used MS Proxy and ISA for several years now. Frankly, I have not really looked at other products. But now that our business has grown, so has the complexity of our network. I keep running into issues where ISA is a roadblock and not a asset. Are the problems with authentication, not passing protocols (even when defined), VOIP, etc ISA centric, or am I going to have these same issues with any firewall product we purchase? In our mixed environment of Windows, Mac, Linux, and Solaris, is ISA really a good fit? Will there be a release of ISA that will address these issues in the immediate future? Thanks to all with more insight into this than I have. ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')