RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:00:16 -0700
Firewall clients can still authenticate to ISA, but not to the web proxy.
Sounds like Surf Control needs to update their "allowed authentication" model.
Jim Harrison
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Aman Bedi" <gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 13:35
Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
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That's what I want.
That only clients configured as web proxy send their connections and
firewall clients and securenat don't.
BUT
I still see firewall clients getting thru their connections.
Which should not happen. I see that secure nat clients are not able to
connect. But how to stop firewall clients ? any other settings ?
Thanks TOM for being patient and listening to my problems
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 4:29 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
http://www.ISAserver.org
Hi Aman,
When the Web Proxy filter is removed, clients configured as Web Proxy
clients continue to send their connections to the Web Proxy "service"
(or non-service, since its not called a service any more).
HTH,
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:15 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
http://www.ISAserver.org
But I had disabled http filter in HTTP protocol settings
And using only Firewall client. ( no web proxy settings)
Then how can it access the internet ?
It should drop securenat and firewall http connections.. ?
But it is not doing so.
:(
:(
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 4:01 PM
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Hi Aman,
Firewall clients connections are automatically passed to the Web Proxy
filter when the Web Proxy filter is enabled.
HTH,
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:50 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
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I think this is equivalent to "directly access the web server" in ISA
2000
and not "drop http request from firewall clients and securenat cleints"
( I remember from one of your blog postings)
If I do this firewall clients are still able to access the internet
without
setting proxy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:38 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
http://www.ISAserver.org
Hi Aman,
Unbind the Web Proxy filter from the HTTP protocol. Open the properties
of the HTTP protocol definition and uncheck the Web Proxy filter. This
is a global setting.
HTH,
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:29 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
http://www.ISAserver.org
Tom,
I know that. I am not using securenat clients.
What I want to know is , is there a way like in ISA 2000, where in the
HTTP
aapplicator filter we said "drop all http request from firewall
clients"????
I don't want my clients to use Firewall client for HTTP ....
I want them to use proxy. It should be proxy or it wont work.
As I said surfcontrol does not work with firewall client authentication
and
this is causing problem.
I have proxy and firewwall client installed. But if user change proxy
settings or use a different browser they use firewall client and I am
unable
to restrict them using surfcontrol.
In isa 2000, it was simple to just ay drop securenat and firewall
clients
HTTP traffic and forced them to be proxy.
I want the same thing in ISA 2004,,,,
Is it POSSIBLE ?
I know I can use group policy , but I don't want that. Some user have
admin
rights and that's not the best solution.
If it was in 2000 why not in 2004 ?
I hope you understand what I am try ing to say, coz I don't find a
simple
solution for a very simple thing .
Thanks
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:08 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
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Hi Aman,
If you require authentication for all rules, connections from SecureNAT
clients will fail because they can't authenticate.
HTH,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:00 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
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Hi Tom,
Still waiting for a solution.
Is there nothing in ISA 2004 , like to 2000 to say "drop HTTP traffic
from Firewall and secureNAt clients" ?
There has to be a way in 2004 to do something which we could do in 2000
I hope u read my problem below. Please suggest .
Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:43 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
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Ok,
What if they have another browser like , mozilla?
So that means there is nothing in isa 2004 to drop http traffic from
firewall client like in 2000 ?
Thanks
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:37 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
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Force proxy settings through Group Policy.
John Tolmachoff
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:25 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Thanks john ,
>
> If I force no access for anonymous use, they will still be able to
access
> internet when they change proxy settings in IE , coz firewall client
is
> installed.
>
> I don't want this I don't want them to mess with the proxy settings.
> Also surf control doesn't seem to work with firewall clients , even
though
> they pass credentials.
>
> As I said, we had a way to say "reject http request from firewall and
> securnat clients " in isa 2000.
>
> Don't we have anything like this in ISA 2004 ?
> If no, how else can I achieve what I want ? shouldn't be that
> difficult..something which was available in ISA 2000
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Scanbuy Inc
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:15 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Force no access for anonymous use.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
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> > From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:54 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > I mean how to force users to use the proxy settings otherwise it
wont
work
> > in ISA 2004 ?
> > I mean as we use in HTTP redirector "reject hhtp requests from
firewall
> and
> > securenat clients" in ISA 2000...how can same be accomplished in ISA
2004
> ?
> >
> > Please help so that I don't have to spend my Friday night (and maybe
> > weekend) in the office.
> >
> > Scanbuy Inc
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> > From: James May [mailto:Jmay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:32 PM
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > Thanks for the reply yes I am setting up a domain. Jim M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Thamasett [mailto:steve.thamasett@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:37 AM
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Are they in a domain? If so, you can use GPOs (IE Maintenance
> > specifically) to fix the settings.
> >
> >
> > Steve T.
> >
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> > From: James [mailto:jmay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> > Hi all is there a way to setup the proxy settings in IE so the user
> > cannot change them?? Thanks Jim
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