[isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
- From: "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:31:49 +1100
I'm seeing a similar thing at one of my clients.
5 of the 40 desktops at the site were upgraded to IE7, over the weekend. These
are to be used a test bed, to ensure no problems with any of the internal apps
that are web based, and the external vendor web sites that they need use on a
day to day basis.
On the desktops that have been upgraded to IE7, there is a constant stream of
password boxes when browsing the internet. Even visiting sites like CNN.COM,
NASA.GOV, MICROSOFT.COM, is generating password requests. Same user logs onto
a desktop with IE6, visits the same web site, no password boxes.
As no change has been made to the ISA server, I don't see this as an ISA
generated issue, as such, but IE7 is obviously talking a different language at
some point and the ISA is not understanding it, and requesting credentials.
Interestingly, if the user types in their username / password, it get rejected,
and another password box appears, time after time. However, If I type in
another username / password first time it gets rejected, on second attempt it
get accepted, the web page displays, however, on the next password box, it get
rejected, time after time. And this is standard user, not an admin user.
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jim Harrison
Sent: Sun 12/Nov/2006 01:57
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Let's clarify a couple of things first:
"..it should have problems with Microsoft's own firewall product.." IE7
was tested against ISA 2004 & 2006 (I still hurt from some of that).
What you describe is not "normal behavior".
"..I think it must be something on the ISA server, that is where the
username and password box is coming from.."
Not even close; any authentication popup you see is generated by the
client application; never the server. It is however generated (again;
by the client application) as a result of the server/proxy replying to
the request with a "must authenticate" response. Please don't go the
"but FBA is generated by the server" route; this isn't an
"authentication popup" as we're discussing here.
"..my pc is not sending user credentials and appears to be only trying
to access the internet as an anonymous user.." Get used to it; this is
the way of HTTP communication.
It happens as like unto thusly for all web requests.
1. client connects to server/proxy
2. client sends "gimme stuff"
3. server/proxy responds with "tell me who you are"
4. client sends same request as before, but this time with credentials
5. server/proxy responds according to its (dis)like of those credentials
Thus, all ISA things being equal between IE testing events, the
difference is in IE.
Again; this is dependent on "all ISA things being equal"...
I too have been playing with ISA & IE through all the various beta & RC
releases and have never observed the behavioral changes you describe.
Thus, you must have either changed:
ISA settings
IE settings
What you don't state is:
- ISA edition; SE or EE?
- ISA patches; what SP / rollup level are you running?
- IE configuration:
- what defaults have you changed?
- have you used the very-useful "reset " button (Tools, Internet
Options, Advanced, "Reset" button)?
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Chris Addicks
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:20 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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I do not have the "require all users to authenticate" checked. I prefer
to specify the authentication in the individual rules since we have some
specific client programs that we are required to use that will not
provide authentication, so for those destinations and protocols only, I
allow non-authenticated traffic through. If I checked the box, like
Thor, then these clients would fail.
One thing to point out. I did not have this problem with the final RC
of IE7. It only occurred when I loaded the released version. We also
get the username/password box occasionally even with IE6, but supplying
the info clears it.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:46 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Except that anonymous access will still be possible. I require all
users to authenticate at the listener and have not had any issues like
this at all.
t
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From: "Mark Morgan" <MMorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Uncheck "require all users to authenticate" on the ISA, it will still
authenticate and your problem should go away.
-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Chris Addicks
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:03 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Ara,
I just restarted the whole server and still no luck. I monitored the
traffic from my pc on the firewall, and it is failing my general
internet access rule because my pc is not sending user credentials and
appears to be only trying to access the internet as an anonymous user.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Ara Avvali
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:12 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Do you think you can restart firewall service? There will be a shortage
but it may help. Sometimes it happens to me and this is the only way I
can get it go away. Actually it happens after restarting the PDC
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Chris Addicks
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:06 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Steve,
I just checked and integrated authentication is enabled. I tried
loading it on another machine, and still no luck. I think it must be
something on the ISA server, that is where the username and password box
is coming from.
I
just can't figure it out.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:19 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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It's not an IE 7 issue, I have just finished a 500 user rollout with no
IE7 / ISA issues.
Is integrated authentication enabled in IE7 properties?
S
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Chris Addicks
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:03 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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Roland,
Sorry for being dense, but I don't know what you mean by the "section
checked passwords". If you mean the checkbox to remember passwords, I
have tried it both checked and unchecked. I have also entered my
username in all the forms I could think of: domain\username,
username@xxxxxxxxxxxx, domain.local\username, etc. I have since
unloaded IE7 so I could function, but it strikes me as odd that it
should have problems with Microsoft's own firewall product.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mueller, Roland
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:55 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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I would research the section "cheched passwords" on the requesting
client.
Roland
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Chris Addicks
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:35 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Internet Explorer 7 password prompt won't work
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We have been using ISA 2004 for some time now with no problems. We have
configured it to require user authentication for access to the internet
from our internal network. I have been using IE7 Beta with no real
problems, but when I loaded the IE7 production release, I am prompted
for a username and password by the isa server, and no matter how I enter
it, I cannot get through the firewall. I have also tried to load IE7 on
another machine, one that has not had the IE 7 beta, and it does the
same thing. Anyone know
what is going on here, I am sure it is just something I am missing?
Thanks
in advance, and my apologies if this has already been covered. I tried
to find info on the isaserver.org site, but couldn't.
Chris
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