[isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
- From: "Andrew English" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:56:50 -0500
So then tell me what does it work behind this WatchGuard Firebox V60 but
doesn't work behind ISA 2004 Server?
Regards,
Andrew
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Wed 22/03/2006 2:25 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
He would have to publish the external server to the Internal network users.
While this is appropriate in some well defined scenarios, I doubt he has the
sophistication to understand what these scenarios are, therefore there is
either a NAT editor problem with a front-end device, or a NAT editor problem
with the device in front of the destination FTP server, or some other really
off-label SNAFU.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:18 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
OK I'll bite.....using the FTP server protocol, which if I am mistaken,
is of the inbound direction, as opposed to the FTP protocol, which is of the
outbound direction., therefore unless his rule is back to front....
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:09 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
Dude,
'preciate ya, but I don't think that can happen. You can use Server PDs
in an Access Rule, so unless something is more whack than what meets the eye,
traces are still in order.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:02 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP
Servers
That's OK...I'll keep you and Jim on the right track...J
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
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LOL! I didn't even notice that, it got lost in the noise :))
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:57 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
FTP Servers
You are such a complete ass Andrew....the server
protocol is for publishing your own FTP servers. You want to allow the FTP
protocol.
S
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:04 PM
To: ISA Mailing List
Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion
List] FTP Servers
Jim,
None of the workstations use the web proxy, or firewall
client software of ISA 2004. They use Secure NAT, they are going out through
ISA like if you had a dummy Linksys cable DSL router.
Example:
ISA is on 192.168.1.1
GW: for all clients on the DHCP server is 192.168.1.1,
again there is no web proxy setup and no firewall client ware installed.
Secondly what I meant in my other comment which you are
so egger to twist around is that I have not tampered with the default firewall
settings of ISA, yes I have added my own rules to the system, but if you look
at the default core settings for ICMP, etc they have all been left alone.
Now are you going to keep acting this way if I say, you
know Jim I installed a new ISA server that only had two rules in it, one for
the FTP server to the outside using the default FTP Server protocol, and the
other which is the default DENY rule that ISA creates? Are you going to blame
on the web proxy or firewall client if neither are installed or being used?
Lets be realistic here, if you don't know the answer
why ISA out of the box with two rules in it won't connect to FTP servers that
don't use passive mode why make a fuss of it? Why not ask Bill to loan you one
his boxes, install ISA 2004, email me for a couple test accounts and go to
town, then say geez you know there is a bug or maybe Microsoft doesn't care?
You have the time and certainly the money to investigate it further, than I do
yet you keep hounding people to show you more evidence before you will get off
your dairy air and do something.. ;)
Regards,
Andrew
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Harrison
Sent: Wed 22/03/2006 12:33 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
FTP Servers
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No - you said:
"I seem to only be able to get access to FTP servers
using PASV modem on my workstations that are setup under secure NAT".
This leaves the failing case hanging somewhere between
web proxy and firewall clients.
You also stated:
"..I have had to reinstall ISA 2004.." and "Nothing on
the ISA configuration level has been modified or changed", which are just a bit
contradictory.
You haven't given anyone anything to work from, like:
- client errors
- ISA logs
- captures
If the problem is important enough to involve an entire
list, its important enough to provide something more than conjecture and
contradiction.
There are a great many FTP servers that disallow active
mode; and with good reason.
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