Hi David, One more thing about this, I wrote: "Or, do you think the author of this article http://www.isaserver.org/articles/pptpnbpart1.html provided a hint as to what the problem with L2TP/IPSec was with Win2k in the first paragraph until the sectoin header Details of the Combined ISA/VPN Server Problem , and if he weren't so lazy, he would have given you a link to http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=248346 which explains the problem with the SAs and L2TP/IPSec :-)" My ADD kicked in again :-) It should read: "...under the section head Details..." Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: David V. Dellanno [mailto:ddellanno@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:08 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA/VPN NLB on Win2003 http://www.ISAserver.org Correction, "Hope to answer soon" ---> "Read up the answer from the author"