Hi Glenn, I appreciate your appreciation! I think the ISAServer.org mailing list and Web boards have a really great collection of networking professionals. There's a real "brain trust" here who's willing to share their knowledge. VPN is one of the "killer apps" of ISA Server, and I'm always happy to discuss VPN issues. Keep those questions coming! Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Maks [mailto:gmaks@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:29 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA-RRAS IPSEC Question http://www.ISAserver.org Thank U Tom for your response, Yes, that is what I am finding out the deeper I get into it, it seems that RRAS supports IPSEC Tunneling but requires L2TP with it, or at least that is what I see when I configure it using the Security tab in RRAS, the Old Raptor box I have only supports IPSEC with out L2TP and of course some proprietary encryption called swipe. I think this is a dead issue. If I may make one comment, I really appreciate the willingness of the ISA List subscribers who share their knowledge and experience with others, I read inquires when I get the time and contribute when I know I can provide valued input. Thank U to all G. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:51 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA-RRAS IPSEC Question http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Glenn, NOT POSSIBLE. You MUST use L2TP/IPSec if you want to create a gateway to gateway link with ISA, or you can use PPTP. HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp <http://tinyurl.com/1llp> -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Maks [mailto:gmaks@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:05 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] ISA-RRAS IPSEC Question http://www.ISAserver.org I know that ISA uses RRAS for establishing tunnels between ISA boxes but has anyone ever been able to build a IPSEC tunnel between RRAS and another vendors software platform, such as Raptor which is now owned by Symantec? Raptor supports IPSEC tunneling and I know RRAS supports Private Key Sharing, it is the authentication I can't seem to get passed, Microsoft says it supports open IPSEC tunneling between RRAS and others, but I have yet to get anything but RRAS to RRAS connections. 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