To add to others, there is no reason to have the router with ISA. >Can you advise on where the security hole will come from? The Linksys router IS NOT A FIREWALL that is the security hole. >My main concern is being able to get a firewall up for my w2k network learning and security reason, so if that means losing the router then so be it. Then you need to work with firewalls and the various components, not a Linksys router that just happens to do VPN endpoints. John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com