Thanks for the info tom. No im not using autoconf or discovery - but I will try them both. Topology: LAN - ISA server - Firewall - Router - ISP ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: 19 April 2006 15:04 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. Hi Stuart, Are they configured to use the autoconfiguration script? If not, try that. You can also use wpad autodiscovery which will have the same result. Make sure to enable autodiscovery publishing on the ISA firewall. Is the ISA firewall in parallel with the existing firewall solution? What does the relevent network topology look like? Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Tonge Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:50 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. Hi Tom Nah its dual NIC - no need for the prozac just yet :-) I have the clients setup to point to the proxy (which I've left to the default of ip-address: 8080) I have enabled 1.1 through proxies. The problem persists however. ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: 19 April 2006 14:44 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. Hi Stuart, OK, in that case, I won't jump out the window today (I always get clinically depressed when I see a hork mode [single NIC] ISA firewall deployment) Configure the clients as Web proxy clients and enable HTTP 1.1 through proxy connections in the browsers. HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Tonge Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:13 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. Yes it's paid for. I didn't deploy it as the front line firewall since this is the first isa 2004 server I've deployed out of test environments. I was going to trial it as the primary, but with all the problems it's caused thus far im not sure I trust it any longer. When the existing problem is resolved, I will likely trial it. But first I need to get the web working properly. I will try sniffing the wire and removing the perimeter firewall to see if that resolves any problems. ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: 19 April 2006 14:09 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. But the ISA firewall is surely more secure than what you're using? Why waste the security you paid for (I assume you paid for the ISA software?) Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Tonge Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:35 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. Hi Amy. Not connection limits - I've disabled any limits. DNS works just fine for everything else, and lookups work in general. Both simple and recursive. It's not intended to protect - I have existing hardware firewalls deployed which do the job just fine. All I want it to do is proxy. If I have time to reconfigure & learn ISA more fully after the project then I'll reconfigure it. Right now I just want it to not cause me problems. Can you suggest any resolutions to the problem? ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak Sent: 19 April 2006 13:21 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA server problem - connection refused. Might be connection limits or a problem with your DNS or workstation setup in general. Just from the brief description you gave of your ISA configuration it sounds like it might not be set up properly at all. Firewalls don't interfere, they protect. Amy ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Tonge Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:25 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] ISA server problem - connection refused. Hi all. I have an ISA server 2004 box deployed as a web proxy. I have set an allow any-any rule to stop the firewall interfering. I have my users proxying through this box to the web. It works 95% of the time. The rest of the time, i get a 10061 connection refused error. If i refresh the page, it generally refreshes the first time. This happens on many sites & has been seen nmultiple times on microsoft.com, bbc.co.uk, isaserver.org. Sometimes images do not load on a page, but this is fairly rare, and some of the images may load. Some will load, some will not. I have tried to isolate 'problem sites' but this has not worked - the error seems totally random. The only common occurance I have noted is that after one error, some clients - not all - seem to have trouble connecting to any site for the next 30-60 seconds, instead receiving the error over and over. I have only seen this on 2 of 40 clients. I have tried disabling all web filter add-ins, caching, ip routing, ip filtering, etc. Basically i've tried every button i can find in ISA 2004! nothing makes the problem better. It's also hard to test since it's intermittent. The ISA server is directly connected to a firewall which filters traffic, but this device works fine 100% of the time when web traffic passed via it instead of ISA. ISA is reporting no errors in the console. There are no errors in the syslogs. Does anyone have any ideas short of uninstalling ISA & getting a refund? Thanks, Stuart Tonge Pink Fish I.T. LTD Network Architect stuart.tonge@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.pink-fish.tv 01302 365408