RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating

From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:43:15 -0500
Good point (on my head) ;-P

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:30 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> LMAO!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:18 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Good point.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:12 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > True, but have you ever read a EULA?  Basically it says that
> > a bunch of monkeys could have banged on the keyboard and
> > accidentally had it compile into a program and that they
> > aren't liable if it makes your computer start on fire.
> >
> > The integrity of the bits is all an auditor cares about;
> > since there is no warranty as to what the software does, if
> > anything at all.  If it can prove that the software on the
> > disk that I have is what Microsoft says it should be, then
> > it's good enough. It's the software's fingerprint, nothing
> > more, nothing less.  Right now, I can't even be sure it's the
> > correct software that they are referencing.  If I don't know
> > that, then what it does is a moot point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:57 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Good point.
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:47 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > I'm not so sure... If the true concern is surviving an audit, a
> > > published file hash is worthless, really.  I can publish
> > the hash of
> > > any of my Hammer o' God tools, but unless you have the
> > source code and
> > > compile it yourself, you have no way of knowing what I'm
> > really doing
> > > in my code when you run it.
> > > The presence (or absence) of a hash has nothing to do with the
> > > integrity of a tool's operation, purpose, or effect - 
> it's only the
> > > integrity of the bits.
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:58 AM
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Good point.
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > MVP -- ISA
> > > Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:49 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > That Integrity Check Tool is a joke.  Where's the published
> > known good
> > > file hash for me to verify that it has not been tampered
> > with before I
> > > downloaded it?  Sure as heck isn't on the web page that you can
> > > download it from.
> > >
> > > Using an unverified tool to verify another piece of software would
> > > have any auditor laughing at you pretty dang quick....
> > > Just like
> > > a cashier at a store shouldn't be comparing the back of 
> your credit
> > > card to your signature but to your state/government
> > (hopefully checked
> > > and) issued ID, since anyone can sign a credit card after 
> it's been
> > > mailed out.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:00 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > I did ;-P
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > MVP -- ISA
> > > Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Greg Mulholland
> > > [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:57 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > same to you :p
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:54 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Blog.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Greg Mulholland
> > > [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:51 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > got a link?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder
> > > [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:26 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] ISA get EAL4+ rating
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > 'nuf said.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
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> > > <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
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