RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating

  • From: "Thor \(Hammer of God\)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:30:28 -0700

LMAO!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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http://www.ISAserver.org

Good point.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:12 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating

http://www.ISAserver.org

True, but have you ever read a EULA?  Basically it says that
a bunch of monkeys could have banged on the keyboard and
accidentally had it compile into a program and that they
aren't liable if it makes your computer start on fire.

The integrity of the bits is all an auditor cares about;
since there is no warranty as to what the software does, if
anything at all.  If it can prove that the software on the
disk that I have is what Microsoft says it should be, then
it's good enough. It's the software's fingerprint, nothing
more, nothing less.  Right now, I can't even be sure it's the
correct software that they are referencing.  If I don't know
that, then what it does is a moot point.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:57 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating

http://www.ISAserver.org

Good point.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:47 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> I'm not so sure... If the true concern is surviving an audit, a
> published file hash is worthless, really.  I can publish
the hash of
> any of my Hammer o' God tools, but unless you have the
source code and
> compile it yourself, you have no way of knowing what I'm
really doing
> in my code when you run it.
> The presence (or absence) of a hash has nothing to do with the
> integrity of a tool's operation, purpose, or effect - it's only the
> integrity of the bits.
>
> t
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:58 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Good point.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
MVP -- ISA
> Firewalls
>
>
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> ________________________________
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> From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
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>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> That Integrity Check Tool is a joke.  Where's the published
known good
> file hash for me to verify that it has not been tampered
with before I
> downloaded it?  Sure as heck isn't on the web page that you can
> download it from.
>
> Using an unverified tool to verify another piece of software would
> have any auditor laughing at you pretty dang quick....
> Just like
> a cashier at a store shouldn't be comparing the back of your credit
> card to your signature but to your state/government
(hopefully checked
> and) issued ID, since anyone can sign a credit card after it's been
> mailed out.....
>
>
>
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> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:00 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
>
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>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> I did ;-P
>
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
MVP -- ISA
> Firewalls
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: Greg Mulholland
> [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:57 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> same to you :p
>
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> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:54 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Blog.
>
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> From: Greg Mulholland
> [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:51 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA get EAL4+ rating
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> got a link?
>
>
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> From: Thomas W Shinder
> [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:26 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] ISA get EAL4+ rating
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> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> 'nuf said.
>
>
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