Re: ISA e-books
- From: "Musser, Dale" <musser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:40:19 -0400
OK maybe I was a little too harsh.
Just a touchy subject to me.
I have to disagree with your thought on the masses. My thought is I am here to
help the masses. I do it everyday and most times all day and night with
clients, friends and family. Everyone is not so smart about computers or the
Internet. They need help and guidance from us. That is why I am in the IT
field. Yes it can get aggravating sometimes but that goes with the job.
Another example : you watch the news and they warn people about scam artists
all the time and some people just think "well hell I knew that what are they
stupid?" News companies can not have that attitude they have to help. Goes
with the field.
I guess it is like what happens to cops. If they start getting rude to the
public because they think the public is stupid and they don't want to help.
They are sent to a desk job or fired. Sometimes. Ha-ha
-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 3:24 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA e-books
http://www.ISAserver.org
>I was giving out what I thought of the site.
Your post was harsher than that.
>I personally don't like sites that sell personal information.
Most people, including myself, agree.
>If a web site is recommended to people I think that they should know
what can happen if they go to the site.
"Let the buyer beware."
>I have to support hundreds of people everyday that complain about junk
mail. I tell them the same thing every time. Did you go to any web
sites and sign up for something and give them your email address? Yes!
Well there you go.
More and more junkmail is coming from harvesting and lurking and
randomizing too.
>Then they yell, why they were not told that this can happen and why are
web sites allowed to do something like this. This is why I warn people.
It is not our duty to tell them something so basic as to be aware of
your actions and prepare to suffer for the associated consequences. That
is something so basic that is applies to every aspect of life. Sad, most
people do not understand that fact. We can not change the stupidity of
the masses that refuse to read through the information and not just
click through.
>I know that somehow the web site has to be paid for but I like the way
places like www.isaserver.org does it from book sales and donations.
That is a business model that a business chooses to use. With all the
information floating around on the Internet for free, if you really want
people to get your information because you believe yours is the best,
are you going to offer it for free, or require it to be paid? With all
the free (dis)information, why would they buy yours? As another example,
look at how this post got started. Some one was looking for information
for free. Is it better to point him to a site that offers great
information albeit at a reduction in privacy, (what do you think
yahoo.com and hotmail.com e-mail addresses are for,) or to point him at
a site that sells the information, then he finds free information on the
Internet that is inaccurate or less than legal?
>My view on that stance is that they don't really care about helping the
IT public but rather just get your info.
Wrong.
>On your comment about allegations, what allegations?
Quote from your post: "Scam artists in my book."
>The rest is just my thoughts about the site. I do believe that I have
that right.
Of course everyone does. But we need to do so in a professional manner.
John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA 92835
www.reliancesoft.com
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