No... It works how Jim said it and how tom said it. Both ways seem to work for me anyway -----Original Message----- From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2005 7:58 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Standard Edition SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Interesting, so it doesn't work the way Jim explained it? -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 15:50 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Standard Edition SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Tom I asked that a few weeks back and you and Jim clarified it in that email I wrote, as I didn't have time to test. It works for me just as you said it would. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:42 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Standard Edition SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Dan, I'm using it right now on a laptop with a manually configured ISA firewall address of a machine it can't reach. The tool tip says "ISA Server is blah is not accessible" and then disables itself. The client then leverages its SecureNAT client config to reach the Internet. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:29 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Standard Edition SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Nope, didn't miss that. The whole thread evolved due to a question that if you specify a server on the command-line while installing, is that not the same as configuring the FWC statically? I "don't want" it to be set statically, I "want" the FWC to autodetect, and self-disable if necessary. So, why does it self-disable for Tom if he statically configures a server? I understand what you're saying, but Tom says his experience tells a different story. I guess it's a moot point, I have mine setup for automatic detection, so it won't affect me. Just curiosity I guess. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 15:18 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Standard Edition SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Dan, Did you miss the "it depends" part? If you configure the FWC statically, it will block. If you have it configured "automatically", it will self-disable. 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