RE: ISA Server 2004 Issues

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:09:49 -0500

Hi John,

Yes, you need to configure the routing table on the ISA firewall so that
it learns the routes on the corpnet.

The external interface of the ISA firewall would use whatever gateway
you prefer to the Internet.

HTH,
Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: vesterby@xxxxxxxx [mailto:vesterby@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:09 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Issues

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Well, here's the deal with that.  We have a 6500 switch.  All the
switches from our closets are plugged into that 6500 switch, along with
the 2 Checkpoint firewalls and the servers.  The default gateways that
are being used are the IP address of the interface on the switch.  Of
course, to get out of the internal network, the clients have to go
through the firewalls.

So if I reconfigure the ISA server as a backend firewall, should I use
the IP address of the 6500 switch, or the IP address of the firewall as
the default gateway on the ISA server external NIC?  I'm thinking it's
probably the ip address of the firewall I should use as the default
gateway.

My other question is, since we have 10.10.x.x and 192.236.x.x on our
internal networks, how is ISA server going to know where to send the
packets if no default gateway is defined on the internal NIC?  Should I
add static routes for the internal NIC?

Thanks again.

-- "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org

HI John,

Some java apps are not authenticating proxy compliant. So, you'll need
to configure those sites for Direct Access so that the clients can take
advantage of their SecureNAT or Firewall client config to access them.
You'll find the same issue with all authenticating Web Proxies. I'd
really reconsider the unihomed config and use the ISA firewall as a
front-end or back-end firewall, that's really what it was designed to
be.

HTH,
Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: vesterby@xxxxxxxx [mailto:vesterby@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:00 PM
To: PeterCykowski
Cc: Thomas W Shinder
Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server 2004 Issues

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Hi - In addition to the below E-mail, I could use some assistance with
the following issue.

I got ISA 2004 running as a proxy server (single NIC).  We have an
application that our users need to access a java applet at a particular
URL, which, for some reason, requires the connection to be an anonymous
one.  However, my company wants to be able to see who is connecting
through the ISA server so they require that the proxy users
authenticate.

When I put a check mark in the Authentication section of the Internal
network object to "Require all users to authenticate", the java applet
does not work.  But when I remove that requirement, the java applet
works.

Can you give me some idea of how I can get this working through ISA
server?  Thanks again.

-- John

-- "vesterby@xxxxxxxx" <vesterby@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Hi,

In order to get things rolling quickly, I've been asked to just
concentrate on the proxy server part of ISA and worry about the firewall
later.  I have a couple more questions, though.

You mentioned the external interface is the one with the gateway.  But
if the internal interface doesn't have a gateway, how will ISA server
know how to get to our different subnets?  That was the reason I asked
if I need to add routes.

The other thing is my company is insisting that we run some other things
on the same server as ISA (to save money on servers) and my
recommendation to not do this has gone unheeded.  They want to run
Microsoft SUS and RIS server.  Can you give me valid reasons I can
present to my management why it isn't a good idea to run these on the
same server?  Our company has about 350 employees.

Lastly, how can I obtain a copy of the Quick Start guide?  The company I
work for seems to want to implement ISA server quickly.  Thanks.

-- "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi John,

Several tips to help you get up and running with the ISA firewall:

1. Install the ISA firewall as a back-end ISA firewall with at least two
NICs. Running the ISA firewall in unihomed single-NIC mode is like
taking three wheels off a Ferrari because it "goes too fast".

2. Don't run Web sites on the ISA firewall. If you have a Checkpoint
Server, but the Web sites on that. Even better, put them on a protected
network.

3. The ISA firewall doesn't use a LAT.

4. Install as many interfaces on the ISA firewall as you like. Just one
is the External interface and that is the one with the default gateway.

HTH,

Tom
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Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
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-----Original Message-----
From: vesterby@xxxxxxxx [mailto:vesterby@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:05 PM
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Subject: [isalist] ISA Server 2004 Issues


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Hi,

I'm new to ISA Server and could use some recommendations regarding some
issues I'm having with installing ISA Server 2004 (Standard Edition).
We
are currently using an NT domain and plan to migrate to an Active
Directory domain within the next 3 months.  I installed ISA Server 2004
with a single network adapter (caching only), but when I try to access
the server for http access to the Internet, I am prompted for
authentication but when I log in, nothing happens.  It is set up for
integrated authentication.

I think part of the problem (which I'll test tomorrow) is that IIS is
also installed and is listening on port 80 - the same port that I have
ISA Server listening on.  We currently have Proxy Server 2.0, which is
integrated with IIS, so I had installed ISA Server with IIS thinking
that it needed it but then realized it didn't.  There are a couple of
other issues too, including:

1) I'm not sure the LAT table is correct - does the caching server even
need the LAT table?  I'm thinking it needs it if I use the firewall (we
have 2 X Nokia Checkpoint firewalls but I had considered using the
firewall feature in ISA to make it a backend firewall for more
security).
We have a 192.236.x.x/22 network and also a 10.10.1.x/24 network.
2) The server I built has a default gateway but there may be cases with
ISA where I want to take the default gateway out and add static routes.

If you could provide recommendations on the above issues, I'd really
appreciate it.  Thanks.

- John


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