RE: ISA Publish Scenario
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:50:35 -0500
Hi Joseph,
I put the private DNS servers on the internal network and the public DNS
servers on a DMZ segment on the same ISA firewall. With the new ISA
firewall, the multihomed DMZ config a sweet!
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: josephk [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:09 AM
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Hi Thomas,
Is also a good idea to move both DNS boxes behind second ISA server?
I used to keep one in my DMZ then decided to move it behind the second
ISA Server.
Works quite well.
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:14 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Publish Scenario
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Hi William,
It sure would be nice if the Microsoft DNS supported views, it would
make life a lot simpler. As it stands right now, you need to use two
separate machines to host the Internal and External zones.
Tom
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Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
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-----Original Message-----
From: William Holmes [mailto:wtholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:01 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Publish Scenario
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Hello Tom,
The next question is does Microsoft intend to support a DNS server that
handles a split DNS environment? That is similar to views that are
available in Bind 9. When a request is made from an internal host you
should get one set of information. When the request comes from an
external address you should get another.
In our environment we are not primary on our dns so its quite difficult
to set up a split DNS. I could change the zone file after receiving it
from the primary name server but that's quite ugly.
Thanks
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:48 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Publish Scenario
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Hi William,
The answer is *always* to create a split DNS. The ISA firewall really
doesn't like looping back through itself for requests from Internal
network clients. As you're noticed, when SecureNAT clients try to loop
back through the ISA firewall, it doesn't work because the ISA firewall
isn't proxying the request. It will work at times with the Firewall
client (since its acting as a Winsock proxy) and will always work with
the Web Proxy client.
Also, the ISA firewall doesn't have an integrated mode. You also get all
firewall features with the ISA firewall, although you can cripple it by
installing it in single NIC mode.
HTH,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: William Holmes [mailto:wtholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 7:25 PM
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Subject: [isalist] ISA Publish Scenario
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Hello,
I am setting up ISA 2004 to publish several web servers. I have a
diagram at: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~wtholmes/publishingsetup.htm
With this setup there is a split routing problem and I was wondering if
there is a way to fix this within ISA.
The external listener on the ISA server is on the DMZ network. When a
web request comes into this listener from an external client everything
works as expected. The request goes through the Checkpoint firewall to
the DMZ to the ISA server which requests the page from the appropriate
back-end web server.
However when the request comes from an internal client it passes through
the checkpoint firewall to the ISA server which responds its internal
interface. This creates a split route. The checkpoint firewall seeing
the incoming request but never seeing the outgoing request drops the
connection. The ISA server sees a request coming to its external
interface from a subnet that should only appear on its internal
interface and also drops the connection.
Solutions not involving ISA:
1. Create a split DNS so that requests for
http://isaserver_listener_address from an internal host are directed to
the internal network interface on the ISA server.
2. Modify the routing tables in the CISCO router to redirect requests to
the DMZ listener's address on the ISA server to the internal ISA server
address.
3. Configure all clients to use the ISA server as their web proxy.
My question: Is there a way to configure ISA so that requests received
on its external interface are answered on its external interface
regardless of the source IP. In other words when publishing a web site
can you ignore normal IP routing.
The answer is likely a no but I just thought I would ask.
Thanks
Bill
William Holmes (MCP)
Department of Computer Science
310 Upson Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
wtholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
607 255-1757 (o) 607 227-6049 (c)
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