[isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and Blackberries...

  • From: "Gerald G. Young" <g.young@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:30:20 -0400

There's only 4 ways that a BlackBerry device will integrate with
Exchange.

 

1.      BlackBerry Enterprise Server (BES)
2.      BlackBerry Desktop Redirector on user's workstation
3.      Carrier BlackBerry Account configuration to pull mail from mail
server (I think this is just POP)
4.      Mail Server Forwarding Configured (sends to carrier's user's
BlackBerry Account)

 

1 and 2 will just work.  When using 1, this is called Enterprise
Activation and on BES 4.0+ this can occur wirelessly, which really is as
simple as entering your email address and a password on the device to
kick the process off.  2, of course, assumes an Outlook Profile exists
and is correctly configured, and that the BlackBerry Desktop Redirector
is up and running on the user's workstation.

 

RIM, and Tier 2, love to make the assumption that you're a BES shop.  At
least they have been when I've called them in the past and I have had to
be specific about BES not being installed before they changed direction
for me. :-)

 

For what it's worth Dan, if you want to start playing with BES, RIM
provides a free 1 user license version called BES Express.  This is
based on BES 4.1 and is available from the following link:

 

http://www.blackberry.com/select/server/express.shtml

Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Applications Engineer, Platform Engineering
Enterprise Hosting
NTT America, an NTT Communications Company

22451 Shaw Rd.
Sterling, VA 20166

Office: 571-434-1319
Fax: 703-333-6749
Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:14 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and Blackberries...

 

There you go. That's what my bro did and it just worked. I was pretty
surprised!

 

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:11 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and Blackberries...

        I was just talking to their Tier 2 support, and they assured me
it is as simple as entering information about their Exchange account,
and it should just work, even if POP is not enabled.  I guess I'll find
out in a couple of hours.

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:06 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and Blackberries...

         

        I don't think he did that, as he didn't mention that he had to
install any software. Just entered the username/password somewhere on
the device.

         

        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
        Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
        MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

         

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald G. Young
                Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:15 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and
Blackberries...

                He's using the BlackBerry Desktop Redirector - it ties
into the user's Outlook Profile on the workstation.  The user needs to
install the BlackBerry Desktop Manager to get the BlackBerry Desktop
Redirector functionality.

                Cordially yours,
                Jerry G. Young II
                Applications Engineer, Platform Engineering
                Enterprise Hosting
                NTT America, an NTT Communications Company
                
                22451 Shaw Rd.
                Sterling, VA 20166
                
                Office: 571-434-1319
                Fax: 703-333-6749
                Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:06 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and
Blackberries...

                 

                No. And when he connects, I see that he's connecting
through the OWA WPR.

                 

                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
                MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

                 

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:00 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and
Blackberries...

                        Do you have POP enabled?

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:55 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange, and
Blackberries...

                         

                        Hi Dan,

                         

                        I didn't do anything on my Exchange Server. He
somehow was able to leverage the OWA publishing rule to use his
crackberry. I don't know how he did it, since I haven't seen what he
actually did on the device to make it work.

                         

                        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                        Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
                        MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

                         

                                 

                                
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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                                Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:46 AM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange,
and Blackberries...

                                Interesting, that makes it sound like
you don't need any modifications to the Exchange server to get it
working.  I'll know more about what I have to work with when the device
and "software" show up in our office.

                                 

                                
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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                                Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:43 AM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, Exchange,
and Blackberries...

                                 

                                Hi Dan,

                                 

                                Funny thing. My brother wanted to use
his crack berry with my Exchange 2003 box and I told him I don't do
crack or apple. I gave him the log on credentailis, and he figured out
how to do it. He's no IT guy (investment banker) so apparently you don't
need to be an IT dude to figure it out.

                                 

                                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                                Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                                Blog:
http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
                                MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

                                 

                                 

                                
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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                                Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:45 AM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [isalist] ISA, Exchange, and
Blackberries...

                                Has anyone on this list gotten a
Blackberry to work with an Exchange 2003 server published through ISA
2004?  

                                 

                                Someone just showed up here this morning
with one they want to have working ASAP, and I haven't a clue of how to
get this working.

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