The point is Andy, we have just spent time explaining to you the need for you to do your own grunt work and clearly you have not taken our advice. I agree it is good to share stories, and get others first hand experience but do this after you have something to compare it too. Dont ask "can i do this"? ask "hey, im trying to this, this is what i have read, this is what i have done, this is what doesn't work, this is what i have tried, then get the first hand experience of others. As good as Jim is and Tom and others for that matter, they cant teach you better than you cant actually teach yourself. Do this process by yourself with your own nag champa incense candles burning and you will enlighten yourself far beyond what you would if you sat on the list day in day out. you'd be surprised how much you can get by just reading and doing.. The majority of us will still respond this way to you until you make a conscious decision to change your habits. Greg Mulholland ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Andrew English Sent: Sun 26/03/2006 3:54 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA 2006 Server http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- Haha too funny Tom. Some people would prefer to hear others first hand experience with a new product and not look at demo movie of a bunch of developers walking about the product itself. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:59 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA 2006 Server http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- What's even more egregrious is that the illiterate doesn't look at the front page of the site hosting this list. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:36 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA 2006 Server > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Andy, > > Have you been within shouting distance of > http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/2006/default.mspx > ? > > If you go there and click on the orange scrolly-thingies and walk > through the demos, you might just get an answer to your questions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Andrew English > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:50 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] ISA 2006 Server > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > I see that MS has a beta version on their ISA site for > download so I am > wondering if any of you have tried it yet? > > Is it better, did they revamp 2004 or is it pretty much the same. :) > > Andrew > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/isalist/ > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server Articles and Tutorials: > http://www.isaserver.org/articles_tutorials/ > ISA Server Blogs: http://blogs.isaserver.org/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: > http://www.techgenix.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe visit http://www.isaserver.org/pages/isalist.asp > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/isalist/ > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server Articles and Tutorials: > http://www.isaserver.org/articles_tutorials/ > ISA Server Blogs: http://blogs.isaserver.org/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: > http://www.techgenix.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe visit http://www.isaserver.org/pages/isalist.asp > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/isalist/ ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server Articles and Tutorials: http://www.isaserver.org/articles_tutorials/ ISA Server Blogs: http://blogs.isaserver.org/ ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe visit http://www.isaserver.org/pages/isalist.asp Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/isalist/ ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server Articles and Tutorials: http://www.isaserver.org/articles_tutorials/ ISA Server Blogs: http://blogs.isaserver.org/ ------------------------------------------------------ Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: http://www.techgenix.com ------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe visit http://www.isaserver.org/pages/isalist.asp Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx