Tom, Do you know if Microsoft has any plans to include the ISA2004 upgrade in some way to current SBS2003 users? SBS2003 users got a new version of everything except ISA when they upgraded from SBS2000 to SBS2003. Or will this be used as the reason to get SBS users to upgrade again? Since most small companies have only the vaguest idea when ISA is, I don't think that they will go for that idea. Amy