That's why I mentioned this. As to not sure what ISA installed as a patch. So, some people might have installed sp3 already? Still, we have the limitations that I mentioned. Have the ISA team come up with a best practice way of working with the different Instances yet? Is this something that will be addressed in EE 2004? Will a site that generates over 2GB of logs a day have an issue with performance? Using the standard reporting of ISA 2004, how then will different log instances be tied together to generate appropriate reports? I guess, I have to get my ISA 2004 installed. I wanted to read the doc's first and understand the object model. I still might wait for that. However, I have worked with MSDE for a long time and it needs managing. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and MSDE Importance: High http://www.ISAserver.org NO. Don't Do That. ISA installs MSDE with the appropriate updates and patches. We hit a snag with teh SLammer fix in teh ISA environment and the SQL folks had to give us a "special" patch that we install during setup. If / when the SQL team issues a patch, look for a statement of compatability from the ISA team. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:07:25 -0700 "josephk" <josephk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Also, MSDE just like the rest of the SQL products needs to have SP3 for SQL(MSDE) installed. I'm not sure what version that ISA 2004 installs. I've not yet put 2004 onto any box. I will do so soon. MSDE 2000 supports up to 2 gigabytes (GB) per database. This limitation is per database, not per server. A single computer can support multiple MSDE 2000 instances, each with databases of up to 2 GB in capacity. So, with the instance in question, without good management tools for working with MSDE on ISA then the "<machinename>\msfw " Structure could break each time the DB reaches the 2GB limit. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:45 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 and MSDE http://www.ISAserver.org It's not a permanent fix; if yo log off and back on, it'll have "forgotten". I'm looking into a more permanent fix. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:25:04 -0500 "Paul Deen" <pdeen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Thanks Jim! That seems to have done the trick! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:33 PM Subject: Re: ISA 2004 and MSDE This is a known, begnign and irritating problem. 1 - by default, ISA 2004 uses MSDE logging and so installs it 2 - the MSDE instance isn't properly registered with the SQL service mangler 3 - you can work around this by entering <machinename>\msfw in teh "server" field and hitting <TAB> Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:12:26 -0600 "Paul" <pdeen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Hello, We recently installed ISA 2004 and I noticed it installed an instance of SQL (MSDE). I am no expert with MSDE, but we do use it for a few other databases, not loaded on our ISA of course. My problem is that I noticed it doesnt look like it is working. Usually the icon in the system tray has a green arrow when it is running. Well ours just shows the white empty circle. When I go into the MSDE manager by double-clicking the systray icon and try to select the service running on our ISA from the drop down list, nothing is listed for our ISA server, but it does see/show our MSDE loaded on other servers. Is this normal? If not any suggestions? 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